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Posted by tjaalzchess
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10/26/2008
07:15:13

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Subject: Endgame K + Q vs K+ Q + N

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First of all I am not asking for any help for one of my endgame, just some clarification.

In a game I am playing I have a Queen and a Knight left, against a Queen only. ( there are however still some pawns, but it doesn't really matter because my question is in general )

Can a game K+ Q + N vs K + Q be won? Or is this always a draw? Or only win if you are a very good player?

Thanks in advance

tjaalz

Posted by gt2win
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10/26/2008
08:54:39

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K + Q vs K+ Q + N

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Should be a draw if there are no pawns left on the board. If the person with the N has any left though, they should win.

Posted by andy94
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10/26/2008
13:42:21

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Well tjaalz, I watched endgames like those and it's 99% draw, even if the opponent who hasn't the N has got a pawn and the other player has not it. Anyway, you don't win that endgame if you are a very good player, but if your opponent is a very bad one!
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Posted by pavel76
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10/27/2008
05:03:13

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I think gt2win opinion is the correct answer
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Posted by ionadowman
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10/27/2008
11:44:57

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In general ...

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... one would expect the KQN vs KQ to be no more than a draw. But there will probably be some special positions in which the stronger side can win. Such cases will crop up if the weaker side's mobility is for some reason limited.

The following is a simple example:
b

Black wins by
1...Ne4+
[A] 2.Ke1 Qf2#
[B] 2.Ke2 Nc3+ etc
[C] 2.Kd3 Nf2+ etc.

The position of the Black king is not particularly significant in this diagram, by the way.

Cheers,
Ion
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