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| From | Message | Posted by helenlupset uskidscompute.com
9/22/2006 16:41:54 Play online chess | Subject: Drug cheats in chess?
Message: I understant that there are drugs on the market that can increase your attention span, and if
this is the case then they will probably make you play better over a two hour match. Could
these drugs then be considered performance enhancing for chess players? If so has anyone
heard about any instances of this?
I may well be totally wrong as the idea came to me when I was on the toilet just now, funny the
kinds of things you think of on the toilet.
| Posted by ccmcacollister uskidscompute.com
9/22/2006 17:22:23 Play online chess | Interesting topic
Message: I wonder if there is. Most things like caffiene that a little might help wake someone up, usually just make someone make mistakes faster. And if it helps you probably should not have been playing that day anyway.
Then there are things to increase cerebral bloodflow. And the thing there is that they are always correcting a suboptimum condition for that person. So should they be forbidden? Then leaving that person to suffer more than normal attrition of the ever progressing brain cell death that occurs in everyone?
Thus far I have been completely against any testing for any substances, as this type should not be forbidden just to play chess. And havent seen anything else that would really work imo.
| Posted by far1ey uskidscompute.com
9/22/2006 18:35:19 Play online chess |
Message: Yes there is infact drug testing in chess. Both Topa and Kramnik will be drug tested before the Championship. So from that one could assume there are some kind of brain-enhancers in the world. ——— Chess: Bobby Fischer clears up — The game looks a mess – until Fischer exercises the clarity and control for which he's renowned. RB: This week the boot is on the other foot and it's Dan's turn to puzzle over the position. I chose this position because in some ways it seems a very unFischer-like game. Among the legendary former world chess champion's most notable qualities were clarity and control. It's hard to see those qualities at work here. In fact – is it treasonable to suggest? – this looks like the kind of position chess amateurs like me might stumble into. Let's see what the grandmaster makes of it. DK: The Fischer games I selected for Ronan over the previous few weeks are, I think, typical of his style: pieces ...
Posted by muppyman uskidscompute.com
9/22/2006 18:50:19 Play online chess | My view,
Message: is simply this. I see all the rules of chess as guides and parameters for honest players. Cheats will blithely disregard any rules they can, all they seek is the opportunity. Legislating against cheats is about as pointless as handing out bibles at the gates of hell. In my mind a chess cheat has all the charm of a maggot, but lacks the movement. I would welcome just one rule for cheats. Get caught, once, and you are banned for life. If a drug exists that will enable a player to cheat, then cheats will find it and use it, end of stoty. :) ——— Soviet Union’s Fall Gave Birth to a Host of New Rivalries — The Soviet Union dominated chess for so many years partly because it could tap the talent pool in such a vast area. But after the Soviet system collapsed two decades ago, many of those chess players began playing for the independent countries that rose from the ashes — nations that quickly assumed their own place among the chess elite. In the World Chess Federation’s current list, which is based on players’ individual rankings, Russia is No. 1, and three other former Soviet republics are in the top 10: Ukraine at No. 2; Armenia, No. 6; and Azerbaijan, No. 10. Russia and Ukraine have often jockeyed for first place in international chess competitions. But Ukraine was dealt a blow in 2009 when Sergey Karjakin, its ...
Posted by kewms uskidscompute.com
9/22/2006 19:43:36 Play online chess |
Message: FIDE has apparently imposed drug testing in order to bring itself in line with the regimes common in other sports. This seems to be part of the (misguided, IMO) push to have chess recognized as an Olympic sport, and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with whether drugs can actually improve chess performance.
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Posted by ccmcacollister uskidscompute.com
9/22/2006 20:26:38 Play online chess | kewms
Message: That has always been my understanding of it too. Well it would be interesting to see just what is being banned from the WC match tho~!
Beleive me, after being found to have some MS like lesions interfering with things up top, I have done some extensive research, along with physicians, as to what may or may not help that. And I havent seen anything that would compete with simply being a player in the best of health! ——— Peter Svidler plays fast and loose in bid to become world chess champion — The World Cup final between Russia's Peter Svidler and Alex Grischuk resumes on Saturday morning with game two starting at 10am BST. It is live on the internet, and I have been watching the games. It's an armchair viewer's delight, and the only snag is the risk that both games – the bronze medal match between Vasily Ivanchuk and Ruslan Ponomariov, both of Ukraine, is also on – could end in quick draws. The chess matches are best of four, with speed tie-breaks if 2-2, and Grischuk has a penchant for blitz. Svidler won Friday's first game as Black. The six-time Russian chess champion, 35, has a different lifestyle from most elite grandmasters. He has no full-time coach, spends less time on chess, and ...
Posted by bunta uskidscompute.com
10/02/2006 13:09:00 Play online chess | I see
Message: Tournaments around my place is full of players drinking coffee and "red bull" or "v" (high caffeine content soft drinks) maybe australia takes there chess pretty seriously. But then again, thats all allowed. ——— Battle of the sexes — The Chess Club and Scholastic Center of St. Louis is hosting an event this week that has captured the interest of the chess community. Kings versus Queens: A Battle of the Sexes pits two teams against one another, one made up of five men, the other of five women. The total prize fund is more than $50,000 as chess players compete for individual prizes, and included in the prize fund is a special bonus for the winning team: $20,000! This is no normal chess event. Not only are five of the world's top female players participating, but we are playing a unique variant of regular chess. Each day there are two games, one game of regular rapid chess (each side gets 25 minutes for the whole game) and ...
Posted by zenbum uskidscompute.com
10/02/2006 15:57:55 Play online chess |
Message: helenlupset writes:
"...the idea came to me when I was on the toilet just now, funny the kinds of things you think of on the toilet."
I don't suppose your real name is Vladimir Kramnik, is it? ;)
| Posted by wulebgr uskidscompute.com
10/03/2006 08:08:38 Play online chess |
Message: Some Red Bull marketing folks showed up at a tournament this summer and offered free drinks to chess players. It was the first time I tried the stuff, and I didn't like the taste. I won the first game I played under the influence, but paid a dear price in the following round.
| Posted by zenbum uskidscompute.com
10/03/2006 13:19:56 Play online chess |
Message: The conventional wisdom is that caffeine and nicotine provide a short-term boost in energy and mood, but impair your ability to concentrate and analyze. I'm guessing that most of the effects of Red Bull are actually from its high levels of sugar and caffeine, and very little comes from the taurine it contains.
There was a time when any sizeable gathering of chess players would inevitably lead to a thick cloud of cigarette smoke in the room. Thankfully our air is much cleaner these days.
| Posted by ionadowman uskidscompute.com
10/03/2006 13:39:30 Play online chess | ...
Message: ... Those were the days ...
| Posted by ccmcacollister uskidscompute.com
10/03/2006 16:03:15 Play online chess | Actually for Caffeine use ...
Message: or stimulants; they might be better off using it for Study time. Its been shown using rats and a stimulant (strichnine, actually ... so PLEASE no human consumption; dont try this at Home, these were professional, trained rats. And you should not try it! okay?) that memory consolidation is better the faster and actually more traumatic the storage takes place. (Like for the Adrenalin jolt you get from some traumas ... tho if you get the endorphin overflo and go into shock, it'll defeat the purpose then too ..... ) They ran a better maze after tripping out on the S.
OF course, if you had a flatworm that knew how to play Chess ... you could cut it in half, and have TWO Chess playing flatworms, but it takes a certain talent for regeneration that you dont have. . . So there will never be two identical Kramnicks paired in a match. And there's something you can take and run with ... ?!?! }8-)
| Posted by zenbum uskidscompute.com
10/03/2006 16:47:22 Play online chess |
Message: "...memory consolidation is better the faster and actually more traumatic the storage takes place."
Interesting theory. Would anyone like to volunteer for a scientific study, wherein you read MCO14 while I administer electric shocks? ;)
"...there will never be two identical Kramnicks paired in a match."
Of course not; Kramnik is a rat. Topalov is the worm. ;)
| Posted by trond uskidscompute.com
10/04/2006 00:45:50 Play online chess | About possible drug cheats ...
Message: I don't believe in it. Jeremy Silman and colleagues have some thoughts on the subject. Interesting read ... doesn't seem to be any proven chess drugs around. Just another odd decision from FIDE to start drug testing. They dream about being part of the IOC (they want to be members of that corrupt, important and powerful organization), and have more interest in that than in running the chess world properly.
-> jeremysilman.com
| Posted by ccmcacollister uskidscompute.com
10/11/2006 16:45:05 Play online chess | trond ...
Message: nice link! Very interesting.
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a FYI , if someone is suffering some memory loss ... Calcium Channel Blockers have been used to increase cerebral bloodflow, and I have seen them make a testible difference in short term memory in at least one individual. There are tests for such, a simple home test is to have someone call a number to the testee, and have them repeat it backwards. Normally someone should be able to do seven digits or so. I've seen somone increase from 5 to 9 or more on things like Calan {Verapamil} or Cardene{nicardipine} Tho I make no recommendations and am not a medical expert of any sort. Who knows, it might injure someone. On the otherhand, if you cant recall what you had for lunch ... maybe that is already being injured !?
Oh yes, the person could do 10 to 13 before developing the trouble tho. So it may be it does nothing, if there is not a problem to be solved. I cant say.
| Posted by bill42164 uskidscompute.com
11/08/2006 09:11:46 Play online chess | drug cheats in chess
Message: Regarding this issue, I believe ginko biloba is definitely a mind sharpening substance. Still not sure though if I would consider someone using it a cheat.
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