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| From | Message | Posted by crudess uskidscompute.com
5/26/2006 12:07:04 Play online chess | Subject: Bishop Sac-Attack?
Message: Here's an example of the attack board #4125881
It's a bishop mating sacrafice followed by the advance of the H pawn against the kingside as either white or black, but I don't know the name of it if it has one. I've played this attack against even 1600's in blitz and won. It usually arises in the Italian game for me. Does anyone know if it has a name?
| Posted by ccmcacollister uskidscompute.com
5/26/2006 14:38:13 Play online chess | Good Job
Message: I dont know of an official name, but it is what is often referred to as a Stock Attack. Vs h6 in your case. Quite often vs h7 instead. These are attacks that are well known and usually contain a number of like or similar motifs/tactics to produce the mate or win. For instance your sac upon h6, Ng5 and h4 are often seen. Another common feature of these two stock attackes is often a Rook lift of Re3 or f4 followed by Rf3 ... and then Rh3 or perhaps Rg3 sometimes ... in cases where WT is 0-0 instead of having the Rh1. There are many such Stock Attacks and all players would be better off for knowing them. Especially useful in blitz, as you suggest. But in OTB too. Or even Corr Chess when your opp does not know them. And even when they do know, often the threat of creating such a sac position can be used to force some advantage by the necessity that they must strive to avoid allowing it.
There is a maxim that pawns in front of ones Castled King should NOt be moved, except as a last resort, because, as your game demonstrates well, such moves tend to be weakening and can almost always be exploited given sufficient Time to do so. Which makes the game become a race then, where the other side must get to you before you get to them, after such a weakness is created.
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| Posted by ccmcacollister uskidscompute.com
5/26/2006 14:43:17 Play online chess | PS ...
Message: Here is one game I had that features another stock B-sac. And would have included a Rook lift Rb3, had the game continued. Tho BL rightly resigned in an indefensible position.
board #1556986
I've had dozens of such sacs and attacks over 30+ years of play, and seen many dozens in games of others. It really is one of the most important things to know such attacks, imo. It will bring a players dozens of points over the years. ——— Battle of the sexes — The Chess Club and Scholastic Center of St. Louis is hosting an event this week that has captured the interest of the chess community. Kings versus Queens: A Battle of the Sexes pits two teams against one another, one made up of five men, the other of five women. The total prize fund is more than $50,000 as chess players compete for individual prizes, and included in the prize fund is a special bonus for the winning team: $20,000! This is no normal chess event. Not only are five of the world's top female players participating, but we are playing a unique variant of regular chess. Each day there are two games, one game of regular rapid chess (each side gets 25 minutes for the whole game) and ...
Posted by crudess uskidscompute.com
5/26/2006 18:28:52 Play online chess | thanks.
Message: I enjoyed that example, esp. 7.Bd3 which seems to have been significant in the setup. Any idea why they are referred to as "Stock" attacks or where it originated? ——— Chess: in search of zugzwang — How to break up this static but firm defence? Bobby Fischer shows the way. Classic Bobby Fischer victories often involve the elimination of all counterplay before going in for the kill. The only problem with closing down your opponent's options is that it can limit yours too. Here White is very passively placed, but his defences are still holding. How can Black make progress? RB: In a closed – locked! – position like this, the answer to the question how does one side make progress invariably involves one of two things – a sacrifice or zugzwang. I'm looking for a sacrifice first (easier on the brain cells), the idea being to give up a minor chess piece for a couple of pawns, break up White's defences and ...
Posted by ccmcacollister uskidscompute.com
5/26/2006 19:54:04 Play online chess | crudess ...
Message: I'm not sure, but perhaps the "Stock" reference comes from the phrase "stock in trade". Which is nothing to do with trading stocks and bonds! :)
Rather referring to a common skill of a Trade or Craft. Something that every tradesman skilled in that craft would be expected to know, and taught to every apprentice. But this is just a guess.
In any case, using the word Stock in reference to a Stock Attack, its meaning in that use would be relatively synonymous to the word "Standard" , I believe. So, the same as saying a Standard Attack. ——— Display of Sportsmanship Makes News at World Cup — Cheating and temper tantrums get a lot of attention at chess tournaments, but two players at the World Cup are making news for all the right reasons. During a match a week ago between the two chess players, David Navara of the Czech Republic and Alexander Moiseenko of Ukraine, Navara seemed to bump his king while reaching for his bishop on the 35th move. Under the chess rules, a player must move the first piece he touches, in this case the king. But after consulting a referee, the players agreed that Navara would be allowed to move his bishop instead. After many twists, Navara was about to force checkmate. Instead of delivering the deciding blow, he offered a draw. That left the match tied, and the players ...
Posted by schnarre uskidscompute.com
5/27/2006 14:11:11 Play online chess | Makes Sense!
Message: A sac of this nature should be familiar to any aspiring chess player: to use & be aware of. ——— At 80, ex-champ still can be a victor — Eighty-year-old Viktor Korchnoi would seem too ancient and vulnerable for the rigors of competitive chess. He isn’t. For perspective, consider that the highest-rated chess player in the world is 20-year-old Magnus Carlsen. Eventually, Carlsen is likely to play a title match with the current world chess champion, 41-year-old Viswanathan Anand, who will be considered the underdog if only because of his relatively advanced age. It is true, of course, that Korchnoi’s results have declined in recent years. Twice a challenger for the world title (in 1978 and 1981), he is currently rated 420th among active chess players. Part of the decline in his ranking, he claims, is the advantage that younger players have in ...
Posted by jstack uskidscompute.com
5/27/2006 20:39:28 Play online chess | grecos gift
Message: If I remembering right, this sacrifice is called "Grecos gift." ——— Judit Polgar adds to legend by reaching last eight of World Cup — Judit Polgar added another glowing chapter to her living legend this week when the all-time No1 female chess player, now a 35-year-old mother of two, reached the last eight of the World Cup and knocked out the top seeded world No 5 Sergey Karjakin. Polgar has competed little in recent years due to her family commitments, but she outprepared and outgeneralled the 21-year-old Russian, who set out his stall for a draw by choosing the ultra-solid Berlin Wall. Polgar was ready, and subtly weakened Black's defences. After Karjakin missed the best defence 21...Rh6! she found 24 Nc3!, netted a pawn, then converted it to a won ending ...
Posted by alberlie uskidscompute.com
5/28/2006 02:11:09 Play online chess | jstack,
Message: No, you're talking about the "greek gift sacrifice". Which, by the way is a funny title for it since you don't gift a horse (à la Troja) but a Bishop. Should that be pagan polemics?? ;o))
Anyway, you're talking about an attack initiated from the following position (or similar):Nf3, Qd1, Bd3, Bc1. And, very important, black neither controls g5 nor h7 (let's say he played ... Ne7)
Then follows Bxh7, Kxh7 Ng5+ and the queen comes in on the next move.
| Posted by wschmidt uskidscompute.com
5/30/2006 13:30:31 Play online chess | I'm guessing that the phrase
Message: "stock attack" comes from the idea that such attacks are part of the regular stock of ideas that a player has available. Just like the grocery store keeps Corn Flakes in stock or and certain oil filters are always part of an auto parts store stock. So with the bishop sac for chess players.
| Posted by stendhar uskidscompute.com
6/01/2006 00:55:10 Play online chess | Greek gift
Message: Or trojan horse, when Black, or White plays h6 or h3, respectively to attack a piece on g5 or g4 and in response White or Black defendes it with the h pawn, as after the capture the h1 or h8 Rook become very active and produces a mating attack. The h7 sacrifice is most common in the French Defense, but it only works on beginners, as more experienced players have had their share of pitfalls. The most bold of this type of sacrifice took place in a game played by Speilman in this variation: 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 Nf6 4.e5 Nfd7 5.Bd3 c5 6.c3 Nc6 7.Ne2 Qb6 8.Nf3 cd4 9.cd4 Bb4 10.Kf1 0-0 11.Bh7! This particular sacrifice doesn't end in a forced mate, but it is winning nonetheless as the initiative generated compensates the material deficit.
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