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Posted by kansaspatzer
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10/31/2005
21:59:25

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Subject: Kasparov number

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What's everybody's Kasparov numbers?

Mine is four, though based upon flukes.

Posted by velvetvelour
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10/31/2005
22:30:43

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What?

Posted by schnarre
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10/31/2005
22:54:29

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Eh!?!?!?!?
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Posted by bonsai
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10/31/2005
22:57:03

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Presumably the same as an Erds number, however do we count beating/losing to/or just playing against Kasparov for the definition?
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Posted by wschmidt
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11/01/2005
13:33:23

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Wikepedia

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has a good explanation of Erdos numbers for those still wondering what the heck this is about. I first heard about the concept as a party game for movie buffs called "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon".
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Posted by bonsai
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11/01/2005
14:24:02

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* Paul Erdős has an Erdős number of zero.
* The Erdős number of author M is one plus the minimum among the Erdős numbers of all the authors with whom M coauthored a mathematical paper.

for an explanation what it's all about: -> en.wikipedia.org.
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Posted by kansaspatzer
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11/01/2005
16:15:47

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Person A has beaten Master B who has beaten IM C who has beaten Kasparov, so Person A's Kasparov number is 3.
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Posted by ccmcacollister
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11/01/2005
19:30:40

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Me too

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It is Four for Kasparov, as far as I know :)
Includes a computer player that beat Gm Lautier
I'll bet a low Fischer number is harder to come by tho !?
Or Capablanca!

Posted by muppyman
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11/01/2005
19:58:52

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okay,

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Welllllll, I was once on friendly speaking terms with an I.M. named Ortvin Sarapu, who came from Estonia and settled in New Zealand, and probably did more than any other person to put chess on the map in New Zealand. Now he actually did play one game against Fischer in one of the Zonals, and obtained a reasonable looking position on the black side of a French defence before being suddenly and comprehensively thrashed. (He told me later that he just didn't see any of it coming) Now Sarapu was mentor to a brilliant young man named Rodney Phillips (who later died tragically) and Sarapu always maintained that Rodney was G.M. material. My claim to fame is that I once played a draw in a friendly game with Rodney Phillips, and also I once actually met and talked to Murray Chandler, the only G.M. ever to come out of New Zealand and he actually did beat Kasparov at least once, many years ago. My question is, if we add all these fascinating facts together and throw in my blatant hero worship of Bobby, could that qualify me for an honourary 500 Fisher number????? huh??? do ya think??? maybe??

Posted by fmgaijin
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11/02/2005
15:13:30

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Kasparov/Fischer #

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Three for Kasparov and two for Fischer (could get Kaspy down to two if you can count speed chess <LOL>).

Posted by chrisp
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11/03/2005
12:28:36

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No idea at all.....

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but does losing to Kasparov count for anything??

Posted by ionadowman
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11/04/2005
02:03:46

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Interesting...

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...idea to play with. I've worked out a sequence, that gives me a "Kasparov Number" of 7. It is via Karpov, which gives me a Karpov Number of 6 (!). What I find peculiar about it is that one from so remote a country as New Zealand is so few removes from the World Champion, via such a slender thread: Chess wins.
The sequence runs: Dowman (once!) beat Sarfati beat Dive beat Anastasian beat Ehlvest beat Miles beat Karpov beat Kasparov. Now if I hadn't lost on time in an overwhelming position against Russell back in '86...
Cheers,
Ion

Posted by ionadowman
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11/04/2005
02:07:02

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If draws counted...

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I could get the number down to 3.

Posted by bob2
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11/04/2005
06:38:45

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Three

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Assuming that games in Simuls dont count.

Bet yours is something similar Chris, just think of someone who you beat, who has beaten Short.

Posted by ionadowman
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11/04/2005
12:46:09

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Wins and draws...

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The 7-win sequence are all tournament and/or club games that went towards a national or international (ELO) rating. As would be the non-loss sequence of 3: Dowman drew with R. Wansink (Auckland Easter 1973) drew with M.Chandler (match late 1970s - don't know the final result, but do recall seeing at least one exciting and hard-fought draw...) beat G. Kasparov (World u/16s 1976).
The 7-win sequence began with a club tournament win over Jonathan Sarfati 1978 (It did go towards National ratings, but Jonathan was still in school then, I believe...), Jonathan years later beat Russell Dive in a NZ Championship Tournament (don't recall what year. I believe Russell is an IM now...
I have never,by the way, played in the NZ Chess Congress at which the NZ Championship is held.
This did take a bit of researching, but it was a bit of fun. Try it. You might be surprised!
Cheers, Ion

Posted by brunetti
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11/08/2005
00:39:30

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fmgaijin

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Two for Fischer? Did you beat Spassky or some similar super GM?

Alex


Posted by fmgaijin
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11/08/2005
08:51:08

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Fischer #

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Though I do have some wins over good GM's (not to mention a draw with Benko back in the early 70's when he was still one of the top players in the world), most of them were too young to have beaten Bobby. No, my route to Fischer was sneakier--I beat several strong U.S. masters who beat Fischer when he was still young and erratic. Though he was a Candidate at 15 and played the Donald Byrne game at 13, he wasn't unbeatable in that period of his career (in fact, he had a minus score in the event where he played the Byrne game).

Posted by fmgaijin
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11/08/2005
08:54:21

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P.S. Kasparov #

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My route to Kasparov comes from a win over GM Joel Benjamin, so that one is more direct but longer . . .

Posted by ccmcacollister
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11/09/2005
18:41:50

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Jus wondering ....

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Anyone impressive beaten by GM Arnold Denker ? Our young prodigy of 90's Omaha, Paul Rohwer (in the top part of the top juniors in USA, and trained by FM Mike Blankenau originally, at the time) defeated him during the era ... and what can I say, but that Paul could be had on occasion at the time (YES I ALWAYS remember wins vs 12 or 13 year old prodigy types ... and you should too if you want to good "Kaparov" # ! :)) So is GM Denker, may he RIP, a source of a nice trail of #3?
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PS// Better yet, beat those prodigies Before the training starts ! :) haha . I bet Paul is good for more proximity than I even know of to date :)) Of course this doesnt pay well nor garner trophies . . . But when you get old and Really bored at night ....