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Posted by tag1153 uskidscompute.com 10/20/2005 20:01:01 Play online chess	Subject: Fischer's return???? Message: An interesting thought was put forth by pawntificator in the "Greatest player of all time" thread. Anyone else think that the mighty Fischer makes one last stand? If so, I wonder who would play him, and why? I, for one, would love to see him make an attempt to regain what was once his. The real question, I think, is who would be the first to tangle with him? Knowing RJF's penchant for the shocking, he would probably demand an immediate shot at the title with no preliminaries (to be played in a swimming pool while wearing cowboy hats while having a Taiwanese literature professor read Faust as the fans throw barracudas into the water). Anybody think he returns????? tag1153
Posted by ccmcacollister uskidscompute.com 10/20/2005 21:32:58 Play online chess	I know only this ... Message: He wont wear any cowboy hat! Cowboys are not his friend ... }8-)
Posted by matthew_romoser uskidscompute.com 10/20/2005 22:14:31 Play online chess	Fischer is willing to play ... Message: ... vs. Bulgaria's Topalov. Of course, he's insisting on Fischer Random (I assume). If I were Topalov I would meet him halfway. 1/2 of the games Fischer Random, the other 1/2 of the games traditional chess. My source is the "Sofia News Agency". Here is the link! Reading the short article, it appears that Topalov is possibly interested in taking Fischer up on his challenge. -> www.novinite.com Regards, Matt ——— On Chess: Game's best can skip some preparation — Which demands more thinking or planning: football or chess? The answer doesn't seem obvious after discussing the matter with a young football coach who spends many hours watching and analyzing video. Even Sunday morning - when defensive coordinator Casey Goff is in his office at King's College in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., studying the previous day's play - offers no respite from a grueling schedule. He rarely gets home before 8 on a weeknight. Team sports require substantial strategizing before each game. On the other hand, grandmasters of chess can afford to wing it. Former world chess champion Boris Spassky used to speak of the importance of a clear mind. He often chose a leisurely session of tennis over chess analysis. Chess phenom ...
Posted by ccmcacollister uskidscompute.com 11/09/2005 20:04:42 Play online chess	Was thinking Message: about this the other day ... wondering if his challenge to random Chess having anything to do with being rusty on his openings of modern GM praxis? Or just a promotional thing. ——— In Vegas, Dutchman Stumbles to Victory — The top chess players who compete in the big European tournaments are accustomed to certain comforts, like not having to bring their own chess set and clock â€” the organizers supply them. But when Europeans play in American chess tournaments for the first time, they are often surprised that they have to bring their own equipment and that the conditions are relatively austere with few perks. It would not be surprising if they did not make the effort, given the travel involved to compete in the United States. Yet quite a few do, and there are European regulars on the American circuit, like the Dutch grandmaster Loek Van Wely. He has been among the worldâ€™s best chess players for more than a decade, and ...
Posted by honololou uskidscompute.com 11/10/2005 13:53:32 Play online chess	Fischer will never return… Message: and the Beatles are not getting back together either. ——— Muammar Gaddafi finds he has a chess mate in Kirsan Ilyumzhinov — Muammar Gaddafi v Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, Tripoli June 2011. The Libyan dictator and the president of Fide, the global chess body, met in a bizarre gamelet which sparked condemnation and mystery. It was viewed as a disaster for chess but a public relations coup for Gaddafi â€“ think Drake, bowls, and Plymouth Hoe. Technically it was a mismatch. Gaddafi had to be prompted on how to move the pieces, and Kirsan, an expert chess player, made a theatrical long queen move then hastily shook hands on a draw. It's all on YouTube. He also played with Gaddafi's son Mohammad â€“ he of Olympics 2012 ticket fame â€“ who is the real man in Libyan chess. Fide called the visit part of "Africa year 2011" and ...
Posted by wolstoncroft1 uskidscompute.com 11/10/2005 21:42:14 Play online chess	Fischer will come back Message: Fischer could make a lot of money in a match due to his celebrity. And with his financial situation :( he may have to make a comeback for the paycheck. I dont think Fischer wants to comeback, but i guarantee wee see him play again. Also,,, FischerRandom was created in order to prevent opening threory and memorized lines. That's the point of it. Fischer believes that without the exhaustive preperation, opening theory and such that when it comes down to chess that he is the strongest player. I agree... ——— Viva Las Vegas — I spent the last week in Las Vegas for the annual National Open Chess Championship, held at the South Point Hotel and Casino. As usual, the chess tournament was well attended, with more than 600 players in the big event. Actually, I shouldn't call the event a tournament. It was really a full-on chess festival! Most chess tournaments are, well, chess tournaments. The National Open is a chess festival in the truest sense of the word. There is a chess camp, blitz tournament (five-minute games), quick tournament (10-minute games) and the aforementioned regular tournament (which lasts three days), as well as a big scholastic event, which draws more than 150 scholastic players. In addition, two or ...
Posted by hamis uskidscompute.com 12/16/2005 09:36:10 Play online chess	Fischer will not return.... Message: because the American immigration officials will make a BIG deal out of it if he ever set his foot out of Iceland. Remember, there is a case hanging like a sword over his head. Even if he plays far from U.S. of A. soil, they will hound the country in which he would play to extradite him to this great country of ours. Look what happened to Japan. But I would surely love to see him play again, warts and all. Maybe he is what is needed by chessdom to pull chess out of its doldrums. ——— Chess: Pawn power — How an apparently innocuous pawn move can invite trouble. DK: Last week Ronan introduced our new theme: pawn storms. This position doesn't obviously fit with that, but read onâ€¦ RB: I don't know this line of the Closed Sicilian but doesn't 1â€¦Bb7 seem the logical continuation? I would expect White to follow up with 2 Re1 when Black should probably turn his attention to getting his king to safety, starting with 2â€¦g6 (or 2â€¦e6), and all looks pretty secure. But I know that Dan likes to try to open up a king that hangs around in the middle, so after 1â€¦Bb7 is there any way for White to take immediate advantage of Black's under-developed kingside? What about a quick advance of ...
Posted by roland_l uskidscompute.com 12/16/2005 19:36:50 Play online chess	But .... Message: Rekjavic (sp?) is very nice this time of year I hear ...
Posted by jstack uskidscompute.com 12/19/2005 11:09:58 Play online chess	Fischer Match Message: If Fischer does play I match, I would rather see him play Peter Svidler. Svidler has experience with Chess 960(fischer random). He plays the winner of the chess 960 open tournament every year. Currently Peter is #6 in the world, so I think it would be an interesting match.
Posted by jackiechanmate uskidscompute.com 12/19/2005 13:35:27 Play online chess	No offense jstack... Message: But do you think there's a market for Fischer playing Peter Svidler? I realize you were just stating your opinion, but even for chess enthusiasts, I don't think Svidler really gets anybody excited. If you're just stating your personal preference, then that's one thing, but if you seriously think Svidler would be the best draw, I think you'd be mistaken. Of course, the possibility of a Fischer return is so minute that everybody here is probably wasting their time in even writing of one.
Posted by tag1153 uskidscompute.com 12/19/2005 17:47:20 Play online chess	Upon reflection..... Message: ....I think Fischer is currently playing here on GK under the assumed identity of blackbaron. As I currently own a slim winning record against him, I think it is fair to say that I have achieved Grandmaster status. Gotta go now - this dream is almost over and I will be waking up soon:) Fischerisblackbaron
Posted by ketchuplover uskidscompute.com 12/19/2005 18:43:27 Play online chess	Message: I don't think it matters who he plays. He's Fischer. Nuff said.
Posted by anaxagoras uskidscompute.com 12/19/2005 21:55:43 Play online chess	Fischer is history Message: 3 words explain why Fischer will not return to serious chess competition: Fear of failure.
Posted by wolstoncroft1 uskidscompute.com 12/19/2005 21:57:38 Play online chess	Message: 3 words explain why Fischer WILL return to serious chess competition: Millions of dollars
Posted by daverundle uskidscompute.com 12/20/2005 04:22:46 Play online chess	he is unlikely Message: to return as anaxagoras says fear of failure not sure he would have the same aura as he had or the same affect on the new younger generation. honololu you mean to say the beatles are not getting back together?! What about Led Zep? You will be telling us next that there is no santa claus or tooth fairy! Still look on the bright side Take That and the Spice Girls are reforming. Actually that is not the bright side is it!
Posted by buddie uskidscompute.com 12/28/2005 07:46:47 Play online chess	Message: Surely the only match worth having would be Fischer-Karpov? I'm probably in a minority but I think Karpov would have won if they had met in 1975 as planned. (Talking of the Beatles - Paul Macartney will be 64 in 2006 so expect a re-release of "when I'm 64" !)
Posted by coyotefan uskidscompute.com 12/28/2005 09:11:40 Play online chess	wolstoncroft1 Message: "Millions of dollars"....HUH??? There is no money in chess, ask any GM. Who would put up the $$$. Who would want their product/service associated with a racist, anti-semite, felon nut-case? No American or American based company could legally give the jerk a penny.
Posted by gunnarsamuelsson uskidscompute.com 12/28/2005 11:03:58 Play online chess	just a reminder Message: Anyone saying Fischer isnt the greatest player of all time...remember this little thing: He played 19 straight wins in the candidate matches before the world championship in -72..Imagine ..19 straight wins!! that is not human!!!!
Posted by coyotefan uskidscompute.com 12/29/2005 05:02:23 Play online chess	Yes he was great Message: So was OJ Simpson. You want him representing you? How about hiring Robert Blake for your next movie? If you think an anti-semite is welcomed with open arms, ask Mel Gibson how his career has gone lately.
Posted by gunnarsamuelsson uskidscompute.com 12/29/2005 15:00:17 Play online chess	correction Message: that was 19 straight wins including a tournament b4 the candidates.. 6 straight wins coming into the candidate matches, then Fisher -Taimanov 6-0 Fischer-Larsen 6-0 ,,then he won the 1st game vs Petrosian =19 straight wins. In the 2nd Petro game he lost then went on to win 6,5-2,5. When he played Spassky, got a little crazy in the beginning ,then composed himself and dispateched him by 12.5-8.5 ..that even though neglecting to show up in the 2nd game he gave Spassky had a 2-0 lead!
Posted by mixmatch uskidscompute.com 1/01/2006 02:53:04 Play online chess	Message: I'm sorry coyote, but hating a group of people is not the same as slashing somebody's throat (He was convicted in civil case). If somebody wants to feel/speak a certain way, even if its wrong, they have every right to do so as as long as they do not infringe on another's rights to live, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness(US standard). I am not an anti-semite, but I am anti-political-correctness. In the words of French philosopher Voltaire, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." I personally feel that his eccentricity has absolutely nothing to do with the game of chess. We don't elect the grandmasters of the world to represent the chess community; they arise due to an extraordinary skill.
Posted by coyotefan uskidscompute.com 1/02/2006 18:38:56 Play online chess	mixmatch Message: "hating a group of people is not the same as slashing somebody's throat" True, but you missed the point. The point is, if you are an advertisor, would you want your porduct/service associated with Fischer. He cannot make a lot of money if nobody will put up the money. As I said earlier, Mel Gibson was a great actor, but since his "Passion" you do not see him anymore. No major studio wants to be assocated with him. He did not kill anyone either. If Fischer wants one last stand, he will have to pay his entry fees and win tourneys just like you and I can.
Posted by wschmidt uskidscompute.com 1/03/2006 13:25:37 Play online chess	Coyotefans' observation Message: about advertisers being sensitive to controversy is certainly true. However, I don't doubt that there are any number of rich individual chess fans who would spring for a large enough prize fund. Fischer's anti-Semetic, anti-US predilictions were already well-known when the second Fischer-Spassky match was held and there was money raised back then. His antics then and thereafter only corroborated was was already evident. Mel Gibson isn't a particularly good example of what you're trying to show, however, Coyote. A quick Google search shows that ABC has him directing a TV film about the holocaust. In addition, he's directing an adventure-type film in Mexico based on an script about the decline of Mayan culture.
Posted by coyotefan uskidscompute.com 1/04/2006 00:37:58 Play online chess	wschmidt Message: Do that same Google search and see the difference in his career pre and post "Passion". He was a top 5 box office actor for how many straight years before, making over $50,000,00 a movie........ and in the toilet ever since. Correct? Just a coincindence that now he is behind the camera for a made-for-TV movie?
Posted by wschmidt uskidscompute.com 1/04/2006 13:01:50 Play online chess	Well, this is painfully off-topic, Message: (and I can't believe I'm taking the Mel Gibson's side in this!) but we must have different Googles. Forbes has him as #3 in their 2005 Top 100 Celebrity list, down from #1 last year. Four months ago, Entertainment Weekly described him as the most powerful man in Hollywood: "'Gibson's religious film made more than $610 million and prompted international debates, making it one of the greatest "power plays" in Hollywood history'" With annual Easter reissues, the expectation is that it will easily gross over a billion and could surpass "Titanic's" $1.8 billion. I think Gibson's age, the desire to be behind the camera and to have artistic control have more to do with his decision-making than any blow-back from the anti-Semetic controversy. What follows is from a July, '05 rewrite of a Daily Variety story on the new Mayan flick, "Apocolypto": "the latest epic that will be fully financed by Gibson's Icon Productions - Hollywood's hottest production property following the runaway success of "Passion". The stunning success and profits produced by the film instantly made Gibson very wealthy and powerful in movie circles, giving him a new influence that Variety compared to that of "Star Wars" creator George Lucas. "By financing the new picture exclusively through Icon Productions, Gibson maintains full control of the project. "Walt Disney Co won the competition to distribute "Apocolypto" - which is a Greek term meaning "an unveiling" or "new beginning" - in North America, while Icon Productions will circulate it in the rest of the world. Entertainment giant Disney had to agree to stringent distribution terms set by Gibson in order to win the US and Canadian rights for the film, Variety said." All that said, I agree with you that Fischer's anti-Semetic rants and his legal troubles rule out any meaningful corporate sponsership of a match he might agree to. It would have to be sponsered by one or more individuals.
Posted by coyotefan uskidscompute.com 1/04/2006 15:30:08 Play online chess	As Fischer has played only one unsanctioned..... Message: match in over 30 years, isn't discussing Fischer off topic when talking chess :)
Posted by coyotefan uskidscompute.com 1/09/2006 02:37:53 Play online chess	And Message: As he is banned from USCF, that makes his tournament career an impossibility as well:(
Posted by armeggedon uskidscompute.com 1/21/2006 10:12:36 Play online chess	ALSO Message: Having just finished reading Kasparov's 'My Great Predecessors' Part 4 - Fischer. Kasparov believes that Karpov would have been a difficult opponent indeed, however I believe 1n 1975, Fischer was still extremely strong and would probably have retained the title, as if you remember, Karpov only just got past Victor Korchnoi, who Fischer would have beaten far more easier. I think Karpov did not reach his true potential until around 1980.