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| Posted by i_play_slowly uskidscompute.com 11/10/2004 21:01:45 Play online chess |  Subject: When to fianchetto?Message: I don't understand the concept of the fianchetto very well. It requires an extra move to set up (i.e., advancing the knight's pawn). It leaves holes. If the fianchettoed bishop takes a piece, it needs to go back to its hiding place, which requires yet another loss of tempo. And it's hard to protect the bishop from the opponent's bishop, if he threatens to exchange. Somewhere I read that you should only fianchetto when your bishop has no other way to leave its starting post, yet there are openings based on the fianchetto. Any reflections on the fianchetto, especially about when to do it and when to avoid it, would be most welcome. Please allow me to thank you in advance for your responses. |
| Posted by joydivision uskidscompute.com 11/10/2004 23:40:06 Play online chess | Hypermodern openings Message: In the Hypermodern openings, such as the Reti opening (1.Nf3 d5; 2. c4 e6; 3. g3 Nf6; Bg2 ...) the fianchetto is played because the idea is to attack the centre indirectly. Instead of occupying the centre fields pawns, bishops and knights are set up in such a way that they attack the centre from a distance. This way your opponent is lured into occupying the centre fields which you can attack later on in the game. Ussually a fianchetto is played in slow games, where there is not much initiative on both sides. So losing one or more tempi do not automatically lead to a bad position. An other advantage of fianchettoing the bishops is that you place the bishops on the main diagonals and they support a queen side or king side attack. I reccomend not to fianchetto in open, fast games where initiative is the key word. |
| Posted by wulebgr uskidscompute.com 11/11/2004 06:57:19 Play online chess | Message: if you've moved your knight pawn forward one square, you should definitely place your bishop there else you develop a color complex weakness. I recommend Richard Reti, Modern Ideas in Chess if you want a quick overview of the principles of the fianchettoed bishop, as well as hypermodernism generally. ——— Carlsen Takes Early Lead in Pearl Spring Tournament — Though it has only been around for a few years, the Pearl Spring chess tournament in Nanjing has become one of the premier stops on the calendar for the world’s top chess players. This year’s event, which began on Wednesday, features Viswanathan Anand of India, the world chess champion; Magnus Carlsen of Norway, No. 1 in the world in the official rankings; Veselin Topalov of Bulgaria, No. 2; Wang Yue of China, No. 16; Vugar Gashimov of Azerbaijan, No. 26; and Etienne Bacrot of France, No. 28. The competitors will play each of their rivals twice, once with each color. In Round 1, Carlsen, Topalov, and Anand, had White against Bacrot, Gashimov and Wang, respectively. Only Carlsen managed to ... |
| Posted by unclemick uskidscompute.com 11/14/2004 14:50:23 Play online chess | fianchetto fever makes you hot! Message: One should never fear the fianchetto in his opening moves in spite of tempo loss or awkwardness of moving the bishop or creating holes. Where would the SIcilian and English openings be without the fianchetto? The power of controlling the long diaganol of squares more than offsets the negative aspects of a bishop at g7 or b2 (or b7 or g2). The traps and pitfalls that natually develop from the fianchetto are worth the dangers involved. Richard Reti was the strongest proponent of the fianchetto and wrote convincingly for others to follow his reasoning. I say "LONG LIVE THE FIANCHETTO!" If you avoid it, for whatever reason, you are cutting yourself off from its benefits and giving your opponent the opportunity to use it against you. Avoidance of the fianchetto is bypassing one of the tactics that makes chess the fascinating game it is. ——— Chess Puzzles: Prokes's Windmills — In the magical world of chess composition, he was called "the player's composer" since his gems resembled positions from practical play. He spread the pieces, usually not too many, around the board naturally and the solutions were very logical. Ladislav Prokes (1884-1966) was a strong chess player who represented Czechoslovakia in three chess olympiads (1927, 1928 and 1930). He was also a prolific writer and columnist, but his main contribution to chess was composing nearly 1,200 wonderful chess studies. His creations were clear, witty, instructive and easy to understand. I am presenting Prokes's two works, in which the white queen acts like a windmill. In the first study, Prokes teamed up with ... |
| Posted by fliszt uskidscompute.com 11/15/2004 04:03:53 Play online chess | Well Said . . . Message: Well spoken, unclemick! ——— Come-From-Behind Victory in a Game Riddled With Errors — The chess world has so many colorful characters and interesting back stories, it is possible to forget that the biggest dramas occur at the board. The final round at the Continental Class Championships in Arlington, Va., which ended on Monday, provided that reminder. Going into their match in the last round, Alexander Shabalov, a former United States chess champion, was leading with 6.5 points, and Giorgi Kacheishvili was in second place with 6 points. Kacheishvili, who had White, needed a win to clinch the title. It is not uncommon for chess players in that situation to agree to an early draw, guaranteeing each a large share of the tournament’s prize money. But Shabalov and Kacheishvili are uncompromising chess ... |
| Posted by gunnarsamuelsson uskidscompute.com 11/23/2004 15:26:20 Play online chess | Message: The fianchettod bishop doesnt inhibit the pawns movements, and gives the bishop a diplomacy in that it has a certain freedom when to counteract with the enemy troops. U need to have some forsight and anticipate enemy troop movements to avoid being overrun.. look out for pinned knights and be sure to move ur pawns wisely. Begin playing the queens fianchetto a very nice opening! U cant make a sigle move in chess that doesnt leave some weaknesses ,, but keeping the pawns mobile and controlling the long diagonals r really awesome stuff! If u have to x back with the fianchetto bishop u have probably gone the wrong way in your game ..fianchettos r not for woodpusher pacman gameplay ——— Kramnik Wins Bilbao Final Masters — With a draw in the final round, Vladimir Kramnik of Russia won the third Bilbao Final Masters on Friday. Kramnik finished with 10 points (two wins for 3 points each and four draws for 1 point each), followed by Viswanathan Anand of India, the world chess champion, who had 8 points (one win, five draws), Magnus Carlsen of Norway, 6 points (one win, three draws and two losses), and Alexei Shirov Spain, 4 points (four draws and two losses). The last round game between Shirov and Kramnik was rather anti-climatic. Shirov was White and failed to gain any advantage out of the opening. Kramnik was able to force almost all the pieces off the board, after which the players agreed to a draw in ... |
| Posted by gunnarsamuelsson uskidscompute.com 11/23/2004 15:39:43 Play online chess | Message: Ive looked at your games and I see that u dont incorporate the pawns in your games but just use your center pawns or a - h pawns to maybe stop a pin..I can see why u dont like the fianchetto. U have yet not developed any positional feel and would have aprox a rating of 1200- 1300 in a timed game ——— Magnus Carlsen should follow the example of Bobby Fischer in a crisis — Magnus Carlsen's aura of invincibility has cracked. The Norwegian became, at 19, the youngest ever world No1 with an all-time rating second only to Garry Kasparov. But a run of five defeats in nine games at the Olympiad and now in Bilbao has cost him the top chess ranking and made him look vulnerable. Carlsen's three losses at the Olympiad, including one to the England No1 Michael Adams, sparked rumours that he had been pressured into playing to aid Norway's successful bid to host the 140-nation event in 2014. His opening-round defeats at Bilbao by Vlad Kramnik and Vishy Anand meant that India's world chess champion became No1 in the daily rankings. Carlsen denied there was ... |
| Posted by i_play_slowly uskidscompute.com 11/24/2004 11:33:34 Play online chess | gunnarsamuelsson Message: I feel insulted by "U have yet not developed any positional feel and would have aprox a rating of 1200- 1300 in a timed game." I didn't ask you for a rating, and I wouldn't respect a rating that came from someone whose rating at Gameknot was significantly beneath my own. Would you? * "U have yet not developed any positional feel"? How, then, do you suppose I got into the 86th percentile at Gameknot? Through luck? * The basic message I am getting from you is that my fianchetto would be more successful if I made better use of my pawns. Thanks for the suggestion. The rest of the message was, at best, useless to me. * In return, let me offer you a suggestion. I see that your average rating is >100 points higher than your opponents' average rating. If you tried playing against opponents who were more challenging, your rating would probably go down, but your skills might improve. My own average rating used to be a lot higher than my opponents' too, but I felt ashamed of myself. My average rating is now <50 points higher, and someday it will be equal. |
| Posted by gunnarsamuelsson uskidscompute.com 11/24/2004 14:10:15 Play online chess | well Message: ..ur playingstyle is purely materialistic, u dont use ur pawns to take terrain or try to get a positional edge on your opponent, u dont follow any plans like that but base your play on calculation of pieces exchanged. In this way u try to avoid all risks. U react to every threat of your opponent instead of trying to follow your own plans.. in that maybe your queenside attack is better then his kingside counterpart or vise versa. In fact u dont play defensive or attacking games at all but just try and outcalculate your opponent for material. I think your understanding of this game is hurt because of playing corr chess too much. |
| Posted by i_play_slowly uskidscompute.com 11/24/2004 19:12:32 Play online chess | gunnarsamuelsson Message: Do you offer a snake to everyone who asks for bread? Welcome to my Ignore List! |
| Posted by hoss uskidscompute.com 11/24/2004 19:53:40 Play online chess | Fianchetto Message: I'm not really that good; so, take this with a grain of salt. I used to play a lot of sicillian dragons and accelerated dragons, and it is my thought that by fianchettoing the king's bishop you actually gain an exchange in these openings. If you study these openings, black routinely gives up the exchange for white's dark square bishop, or to muck-up white's pawns to achive equallity. So, if black can give up an exchange in an opening charaterized by a fianchetto and still draw the game; then, logically, the fianchettoed bishop must be worth an extra exchange. It is just a theory, and, like I said, it is your decision how you ingest my humble opinion; I hope that my point of veiw can help. I made a post when I was of a lesser rating, and I was treated in same manner as gunnarsamuelsson treated you. It helped me immensely to be handled so roughly; so don't be angry, he's just trying to help. Lincoln once said, "Tact is the ability to describe people as they see themselves." |
| Posted by cairo uskidscompute.com 11/25/2004 01:43:46 Play online chess | Excellent Message: advise and very well spoken of unclemick!! Best wishes Cairo |
| Posted by ccmcacollister uskidscompute.com 11/28/2004 21:15:22 Play online chess | Hmmm Message: If you are going to put a Bishop on b2,g2,b7 or g7 ... it is an excellent time to fianchetto. Some people also fianchetto to put their queen there however. Or their King, against the Benko Gambit. The latter seems to work well enough. The former is a little weird. If you find you have a knight fianchettoed in a Dragon Sicilian or a King's Indian ... you are usually about to lose quickly. Never fianchetto a Rook! }B-) |
| Posted by kingofmates uskidscompute.com 11/29/2004 10:40:32 Play online chess | Fianchetto in games for rich middle game play Message: I had the same question about 1970. I've found that the fianchetto is not especially appropriate in open tactical games that require quick development of pieces for counterplay. Instead, it works well in games that develop more slowly, where pawns don't necessarily occupy the center, or in games where the bishop on b2 or g2 reinforces a pawn center that can become mobile as it advances. Take a look at white's 1st moves of 1. g3 2. Kf3. 3 Bg2 4. 00 .... a Reti type opening that is very flexible. Of course the action is usually delayed further into the middle game. I've also had good success with the unconventional 1. b4 2. Bb2 the so called Orangutang, Grob, or Polish opening. This usually involves control of the center with pieces while establishing pawns on the queen flank. The fianchetto type openings and defenses lead to more complicated positional play with rich combinations appearing in the middle game. Good luck with your trials. kingofmates |