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| Posted by thumper uskidscompute.com 11/27/2003 19:45:29 Play online chess |  Subject: Best opening ?Message: I would like some input about the 'best' openings in chess. I play most of my games from black so my white opening repertoire is lacking. I'd like to specialize/study one or two of the most effective openings but don't have time to search through the countless variations and books dedicated to promoting them. Thanks |
| Posted by baseline uskidscompute.com 11/27/2003 20:03:29 Play online chess | Silver bullet Message: Sorry there isn't one, as white you make the first move but the other guy makes the second etc. There is no way to force the game into a simple opening system your opponet has to go along with. |
| Posted by thumper uskidscompute.com 11/28/2003 00:36:49 Play online chess | Hmmmm, silver bullet? Message: I'm looking for a little more input than mere condescension Baseline. Something along the lines of: "The King's Gambit is rairly played at tournament level because white's move is considered too loosening, I therefore recomend the Queen's Gambit for better line choices and further study." Maybe someone else can provide some insight into modern opening theory. Thanks ——— The f-pawn, part 3: a blunt but effective attack? — Punting the f-pawn down the chess board may be desperate but it sometimes gets results. The Grand Prix Attack. White has just offered the f-pawn. How should Black reply? RB We've been using the metaphor of route-one football in our survey of the f-pawn advance, and while we all know from experience that the long, hopeful punt down the park can produce the occasional goal, this looks to me just a little too early and a little too crude. The team is barely on the pitch and the ball has already been booted up the other end. On principle alone it seems wrong. I can't decide whether Black's best response is 1…exf5 or simply to continue with ... |
| Posted by baseline uskidscompute.com 11/28/2003 02:14:36 Play online chess | thumper Message: Your not going to grow as a chess player until you start making these decisions for your self. You see all of the major opening are sound many of the choices are a matter of taste. You should chose based on your taste. If you are looking for a short cut then adopt the opening repertoire of one of your favorite Grandmasters. A Grandmaster whose style you can relate to. ——— Vietnamese surprise in Moscow — The Aeroflot Open, arguably the strongest open chess tournament ever, ended Feb. 19 in Moscow. The field of 80 included 75 chess grandmasters. The surprising winner of 21,000 Euros (about $28,000) for first place was 18-year-old Le Quang Liem of Vietnam, who scored an undefeated 7-2. His success followed his tie for first place in the Moscow Open, another GM-heavy chess tournament, a day before the start of the Aeroflot Open. Entering the last round of the Aeroflot Open, Le shared the lead with his countryman Nguyen Ngoc Truong Son, 19. Le defeated 2009 winner Ian Nepomniachtchi (Russia), while Nguyen lost to GM Anton Korobov (Ukraine), who took ... |
| Posted by enes89 uskidscompute.com 11/28/2003 06:20:32 Play online chess | possibility Message: hey. if you are white at the starting there are 20 different possibilities which means you can choose the best opening out of 20. i would prefer d4 ( queen`s gambit). ——— A Chess Player’s Attacks Pay Off, Even When They Shouldn’t — Computer chess programs are so popular, and so good, that almost anybody can use one to figure out where a chess player went wrong — when the game is over. But at the chess board, competitors can rely only on their brains and wits (unless they are cheating) and are bound to make mistakes, especially when they are under pressure. One reason why Veselin Topalov of Bulgaria is so good is that he forces opponents to make mistakes. Ranked No. 2 in the world, he is an aggressive chess player who is always trying to attack. There are problems with this approach, when being aggressive is not justified. But the constant pressure that he places on his opponents often ... |
| Posted by amleto uskidscompute.com 11/28/2003 06:27:45 Play online chess | erm Message: There may be only twenty moves available at first but there are more than 20 openings to choose from! d4 doesn't have to be queens gambit. ——— Vishy Anand saves his strength before world match with Veselin Topalov — Vishy Anand, who defends his world title against Veselin Topalov at Sofia in April, kept his powder dry in his warm-up chess event at Corus Wijk where the Indian, 40, played at full force in only a few games. In contrast Topalov, 34, has played hard in almost every game this week at the Linares elite chess tournament in Andalusia, where he won first prize with 6.5/10, half a point ahead of Russia's Alex Grischuk. The Bulgarian squeezed points from tiny advantages and by round six had regained the world No1 spot on the live chess ratings from Magnus Carlsen. These daily updated rankings have a huge following and their prestige is now not far short of ... |
| Posted by enes89 uskidscompute.com 11/28/2003 06:38:56 Play online chess | Message: of course d4 doesnt have to be queens gambit, i meant move d4 then keep going as a queens gambit. ——— A Match All About the Sicilian — An unusual chess match is being held in South Carolina. It pits Judit Polgar of Hungary, the strongest woman chess payer in history, who is now ranked No. 46 in the world, but once was in the top 10, against Gregory Kaidanov, a Ukrainian-born American grandmaster, who is ranked No. 261. The match is four games and has an interesting twist: Each game begins with a different variation of the Sicilian Defense. The first game was on Monday and was won by Kaidanov, who had White, and featured the Sveshnikov. The second, which was won by Polgar, was on Tuesday and was a Dragon. The third chess game, which is being played on Wednesday, and can ... |
| Posted by dysfl uskidscompute.com 11/28/2003 09:03:17 Play online chess | I got the same question, partial answer to myself Message: Still being a biginner, I just want to share my 2 cents. I wasted a lot of time and energy to remember all the major line of several openings, which *I* wanted to use. The biggest problem was, my buddy at the other side of the board does not share the same desire to test my memory. Also, my memory keeps failing to remember the sequences. Let's say you're an expert of Luy Ropez mainlines, then I'll deviate to a minor line which loses a tempo just a little so no master will play. Or, I'll just play 1.e4-d4, which I might have a little more experience. So, I don't think anyone can choose the best opening for me. That said, try London system or Colle. |
| Posted by anaxagoras uskidscompute.com 11/28/2003 17:28:14 Play online chess | Message: The best openings are those that aim to control the center, develop the minor pieces and castle. In that case, g3, Nf3, e4, d4 and c4 are all candidate first moves. After your first move as White, you can count on Black to do everything he can to foul you up and take you into unfavorable lines. |
| Posted by thumper uskidscompute.com 11/28/2003 19:33:48 Play online chess | Now you're talking Message: Dysfl. The Colle system - Edgard Colle(1897-1932), and the London system - A combination of the Colle, Torre, and various Queen pawn openings. They both look promising, are fairly versatile and appear to fit my playing style. The lines look very interesting too. I'll delve into them a bit and see if I can grasp the nuances. Anaxagoras - Yes,yes. Must control the center. |
| Posted by spurtus uskidscompute.com 11/30/2003 12:03:31 Play online chess | Message: Thumper, I think and was taught to not to get sucked into the opening your opponent might know better than you. My memory is fairly poor, and would rather the game did not revolve around this matter. I would therefore recommend unusual openings. Although not as strong as other openings once know well etc., there is usually a good chance that you can gain initiative through surprise, and long term tactical ideas. Openings starting with e3 are not usually expected!, and before anybody says it you do not lose the game with this move, but start the game with a small surprise! Regards, Spurtus. |
| Posted by loreta uskidscompute.com 11/30/2003 22:21:03 Play online chess | Related to selecting of 'my' opening Message: I just could say I've finished experienting with Rousseau gambit. During the last two months I played (by using it) not less than 30 games. I'm not sure if I use it in serious games (there on GK, even after I had good score by it) but I think it's pretty good for fast chess. As ussually I pay 6, 8, or 10 minutes per game, and the f5 move in unexpected place takes for thinking (for opponent) from 1 or 2 minutes - so I get an advantage in that time, at least. -------- More notes - a) only about 10% played a variation considered as the best (for White) b) no one played the most sharp (wild) variation { in corr. chess that could be in different proportion, however } . ------------- I could provide an one game (only that played in corr. chess, time control 14 days per move) - it's not the best one, but gives some view on this gambit: . [Date "2003.10.02"] [White "lgunder"] [Black "yours sinfull"] [Result "0-1"] . 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 f5 4. exf5 e4 5. Ng1 Nf6 6. Nc3 d5 7. Bb5 Bxf5 8. Nge2 d4 9. Ng3 Bg6 10. Nce2 h6 11. b3 Qd6 12. Bb2 d3 13. Nc3 dxc2 14. Qxc2 O-O-O 15. O-O-O Nd4 16. Qb1 Nxb5 17. Nxb5 Qc6+ 18. Nc3 Ng4 19. Rdf1 e3 20. dxe3?? Bxb1 0-1 |
| Posted by werwolf uskidscompute.com 12/01/2003 02:21:01 Play online chess | The best opening? Message: The best opening is opening which I know better than my opponent. |
| Posted by divine_sun_cat uskidscompute.com 12/01/2003 06:07:03 Play online chess | solid enough but not common Message: 1. b4 and 1. f4 are both solid openings without too much theory, and that your opponent may not know too well. I have had reasonable success with 1. b4 in OTB chess. I suggest you choose an opening based on your strengths, and start a tourny with it to experience it from both sides. |
| Posted by loreta uskidscompute.com 12/02/2003 08:10:30 Play online chess | Appendix... Message: Interesting game in Rousseau gambit at Yahoo - in places sharp as razor: Time control: 9 min per game (it was evening and I felt tired a bit): 1. e2-e4 e7-e5 2. g1-f3 b8-c6 3. f1-c4 f7-f5 4. e4xf5 e5-e4 5. c4xg8 h8xg8 6. d1-e2 d7-d5 7. d2-d3 c8xf5 8. f3-g5 d8-e7 9. o-o h7-h6 10. d3xe4 d5xe4 11. e2-b5 e7-c5 12. b5xb7 a8-b8 13. b7xc7 h6xg5 14. c1xg5 f8-d6 15. c7xb8+ d6xb8 16. b1-c3 b8-e5 17. g5-e3 c5-d6 18. c3-b5 e5xh2+ 19. g1-h1 d6-b8 20. g2-g3 h2xg3 21. f2xg3 b8xg3 22. b5-c7+ e8-d7 23. a1-d1+ d7-c8 24. d1-d6 g8-h8+ 25. d6-h6 g7xh6 26. f1xf5 h8-g8 27. f5-f2 g3-g1++, 0:1 |
| Posted by jeffz_2002 uskidscompute.com 12/04/2003 14:56:36 Play online chess | Without a doubt, Message: the single best opening is 1. e4, followed by 2. Ke2!! Get the king out in the center! After all, he's the KING, isn't he? Shouldn't he lead by example? |
| Posted by philaretus uskidscompute.com 12/04/2003 16:31:05 Play online chess | The best openings nowadays... Message: ...are those that puzzle computers, so jeffz_2002's suggestion is worth considering. For instance: 1.e4 e5 2.Ke2!? Nc6 3.Qe1! Nd4+ 4.Kd1, and White stands better. Perhaps Black's best defence is the Symmetrical Variation: 1.e4 e5 2.Ke2 Ke7 3.Qe1 Qe8 4.Kd1 Kd8 |
| Posted by jeffz_2002 uskidscompute.com 12/05/2003 04:36:53 Play online chess | philaretus Message: Are you kidding? And does "philaretus" mean anything? It sounds like a Greek philosopher. |
| Posted by philaretus uskidscompute.com 12/05/2003 05:15:11 Play online chess | I'm trying to guess.... Message: ....what jeffz_2002 can mean... ;) |
| Posted by janpot uskidscompute.com 12/07/2003 09:58:53 Play online chess | Best opening(s) for White? Message: There are so many. But: As the initial post here was about to MINIMIZE variations knowledge/memorising, I suggest: * A Hypermodern Opening Repertoire for White (Eric Schiller, Cardoga Publishing), based on the English and the Réti. * Complementing this with the King's Indian Attack and probably the London System. Schiller also wrote two good books for Black, also to minimize endless variations study: * A Complete Defense against King Pawn Openings (based on the Caro-Kann) * A Complete Defense against Queen Pawn Openings (based on the Tarrasch) But never forget to enhance your knowledge, ability to play a fair tactical and strategical game. Oh well, I suppose this is about a lifetime's task, anyway. Cheerio! Jan |
| Posted by mitchst uskidscompute.com 12/07/2003 14:49:09 Play online chess | Eric Schiller's opening books Message: While I cannot say that I could write an opening book on my own (though with about 3 or 4 months I think I could certainly do better than Schiller), Eric Schiller's opening books, in addition to not offering the latest material, frequently give lines that are either not the most ambitious, or, in some cases, simply not good, just because he "likes them". The openings in Schiller's book will never help anyone rated over 1400 and so once you hit 1400 you'll need to buy a whole new set of books. For white, John Emms "Attacking with 1. e4" is a great book as is "Play 1. d4" (can't recall the author). GM Aaron Summerscale's "A Killer Chess Opening Repertoire" is a nice attacking manual based around 1. d4. For black, though I don't play it, "An Explosive Chess Opening Repertoire for Black" based on 1...d6 is a really good book if you want to play hypermodern. To be honest, I think "real" openings are best to learn at any level, they help you learn more advanced themes and although you may lose a few games at first (as I did when I started playing the Sicilian Dragon), you slowly build expert knowledge of a GOOD OPENING, not just one that will only beat weak and unprepared players. I want an opening that will give me good chances, regardless of what theory my opponent knows. GMs play the main lines for a reason. A great general opening reference is "Nunn's Chess Openings" co-authored by GMs Nunn, Emms, Gallagher, and Burgess with Kasparov overseeing the project. However, for those who lack the time to study, the above titles are really good. |