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Posted by mattafort
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5/29/2003
05:26:30

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Subject: Brunetti vs. The Bunch

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Brunetti - The Bunch
Sicilian B20
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6

This is an ongoing game, 18 moves so far.
brunetti plays against the rest.
We vote for the best move to play.

I have put a "replay" of this game on my chess site.
You also find link to this game, in the gameinfo.

213.100.118.115:7000/mattachess

Come on! Let's beat him up .... :D
mattafort

PS.
We could use this thread to discuss,
what move we think is best vote.
DS.

Posted by mattafort
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5/29/2003
05:29:41

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link for voting

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here is the link to watch the game
and to give a vote

www16.brinkster.com/noexitdc/chess/gkcm_match.htm

mattafort

Posted by mattafort
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5/29/2003
09:30:30

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my move

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how about making 18... Nd4

I think it is an offensive move.
It will keep the initiative.

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Posted by danvan1
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5/29/2003
18:09:45

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I agree

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Had a look at the board and agree 18...Nd4 looks good.
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Posted by verticalchess
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5/29/2003
20:00:51

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My suggestion

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Nd4 is probably the most sound move but we should also consider activating the dark-squared bishop with Bh6 - pinning the Knight to the Queen and then follow up with a central pawn advance.
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Posted by mercy
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5/29/2003
22:13:52

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??

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I'm not too sure 15... e5 was such a good move? However, in the current position, I think some protection needs to be given to c6
With this in mind, maybe 18... Qc5

Doris

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Posted by mattafort
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5/30/2003
02:18:05

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Yes, Qc5

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Yes, Qc5 is a very good alternative to Nd4.
Maybe even BETTER!

I wanted to do Bh6, but c-pawn should be guarded first.
This game is played REAL slow. We will have a long time to think.
Any other move we can vote for?

Brunetti - The Bunch (the rest of us)
Actual position: 213.100.118.115:7000/mattachess/mattachess.html

ECO is B97, not B20, which I said first.
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Posted by atrifix
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5/30/2003
02:38:38

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REAL, REAL slow

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the last time a move was played, it was almost 9 months ago.

Posted by mattafort
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5/30/2003
02:48:21

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HeHe

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then maybe it is a no-more-game

Can someone, who knows brunetti
send him a message, and ask him,
what is the matter with that game.

I sure want to know?!?!
mattafort

Posted by bodacious_1uk
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5/30/2003
04:33:25

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can only body join in?

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if so i would agree with Bh6 maybe followed up with Qc5 - to threaten the knight.

Bodacius_1uk

Posted by mattafort
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5/30/2003
05:15:51

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to turn on the voting

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the webmaster at that site
has not turned on the voting for blacks next move.
We may have to email him and brunetti,
to get things rolling again.

Direct 18.. Bh6 is not possible
He only takes pawn on c6

Posted by mattafort
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5/30/2003
06:54:01

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webmaster = sjoroos

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www16.brinkster.com/noexitdc/chess/start.htm

Obviously it is sjoroos who is Webmaster
at that site. Read this:
gameknot.com/fmsg/chess3/626.shtml

If you would like to start the voting option
sjoroos
we would be very pleased.

Maybe brunetti is AFRAID of losing :D :D
and has resigned the game .....
In that case, put 0-1 into the notation!!!!

Posted by verticalchess
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5/30/2003
07:50:52

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That's a

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good point about the d6 pawn - I have decided that Qc5 would be necessary first and would help to attack White's Knight after the move Bh6.

Posted by mattafort
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5/30/2003
11:02:25

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Qc5 has benefits

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Qc5 guards d6, making Bh6 or Bg7 possible
Qc5 puts Queen more into center.
Qc5 give opportunity to make a7-a5 later
to guard b4
this will free other pieces for more interesting tasks

White will probably next do Bh5+
which destroys black castle.
so 18... Qc5 19. Bh5+ can be the moves to come

Posted by mercy
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5/30/2003
21:58:57

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Glad you like it

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Yes, ...Qc5 has benefits. It defends d6 (freeing the Bishop) and c6. I was worried about white playing Bf3. If ...Qc5 is played, I dont think Bf3 is much to worry about anymore. However...
I dont think white will play 19.Bh5. I think stronger would be to expect 19.Nd5

Doris


Posted by vietnamese_girl_18
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5/31/2003
03:20:14

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Yes, Qc5 is a good move -- I'd vote for it. However, this game is so old, 8 or more months old, that we have to get in contact with brunetti to remind him of the game and ask if he's willing to resume play. If I remember correctly, the reason the game stagnated was that people gradually posted fewer and fewer ideas about what to do next and eventually there was quite a lag between moves.

Good luck in getting it going again!

Sarah Tran

Posted by mattafort
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5/31/2003
07:31:48

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thanks

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I have sent a message to sjoroos who is webmaster at that site.
He, I hope, will turn on the voting
and tell brunetti the game is going again.

Is vietnamese_girl_18 "Forever Young"?
Doesn't vietnamese women get older than 18?

/matta

Any other moves than Qc5; Nd4 we can consider?
www16.brinkster.com/noexitdc/chess/gkcm_match.htm

Posted by mercy
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5/31/2003
12:10:58

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18... Nd4?

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Allows 19.Rxb4 Qxa2 20.Qc3 Kd8 (This move HAS to be played! since 21.Rxd4 followed by 22.Qc6 is threatened!) 21.Rxd4 (21.Rb2 may be better) exd 22.Qxd4 I'm not sure how to continue here for Black but lets try 22... Qa5 but then... 23.Kf2! followed by Bf3 and I would assess that white stands better.

This final position is tricky to analyse... one is tempted to say that black has a better chance due to his a pawn. In fact, if you remove every piece, I'm willing to say that black does have better chances. However... white still has pieces on the board and I do not see anyway that black could forceably exchange them. Last and least... the pieces that white has on the board... are well placed and better then black's... despite being the exchange up, black has a sorry bishop that will spend its time defending pawns AND... 2 Rooks with nowhere to go. Let's not forget a king stuck in the center.

Doris


Posted by atrifix
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6/07/2003
03:16:51

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I'd be interested in continuing this match if brunetti ever gets the time and there's enough interest. However, if the match is not resumed, then perhaps brunetti would like to see the old analysis threads (he requested to see them eventually at the beginning of the match). If so, it wouldn't be too hard to dig up the old threads and provide links.

Posted by xerox
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6/07/2003
03:38:35

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rb8

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Isn't this move possible?


Posted by mattafort
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6/07/2003
07:23:38

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No sign of sjoroos

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No sign of sjoroos.
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"Poll has NOT started yet !
Discussion still going on at gameknot!
Come back later to vote.."
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This is the only message you get at sjoroos website.
www16.brinkster.com/noexitdc/chess/no_poll_yet.htm

I tell you, I wouldn't run a website in this way.
Sorry to see such things (being a swedish).
If I had that website, with sjoroos facilities,
you would see something else, I tell you.
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I have seen brunetti has posted some posts at Forum, only a day ago.
But he maybe didn't get his eyes on this thread.
So, I send him a link to this thread now.
We hope for the best!
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Thanks, mercy for your good analyse of 18... Nd4?!
18... Qc5 is our move, so far.

How about moving Ra8?
Any other moves?

www16.brinkster.com/noexitdc/chess/gkcm_match.htm
also
213.100.118.115:7000/mattachess/mattachess.html

mattafort

Posted by mattafort
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6/07/2003
08:03:42

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- message to brunetti is sent -

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To put maximum SOCIAL PRESSURE
I have sent the following msg to brunetti, a minute ago.

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Hello, brunetti!

Brunetti vs. The Bunch
www16.brinkster.com/noexitdc/chess/gkcm_match.htm

Quote, mattafort says:

"Obviously it is sjoroos who is Webmaster
at that site. Read this:
gameknot.com/fmsg/chess3/626.shtml

If you would like to start the voting option
sjoroos
we would be very pleased.

Maybe brunetti is AFRAID of losing :D :D
and has resigned the game .....
In that case, put 0-1 into the notation!!!!"
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Now I have sent message to sjoroos, with no reaction.
So, I now address you Alex, brunetti.
And I know you will respond.
(and if you don't, I write so in next post, at the thread) :) :D

You have to understand, that WE ARE MANY
that would REALLY ENJOY to win over you ....

Regards (so far)
/mattafort from Sweden
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Now we wait, before next step.
We might have to use law-enforcing methods
and sue them for breaking a committment ... :D

mattafort

Posted by mattafort
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6/09/2003
10:58:29

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No Response, yet

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No Response, yet
from sjoroos or brunetti
but we wait - i guess both of them are busy men

Posted by sjoroos
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6/10/2003
14:46:04

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Sorry..

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.. for not having ansered your posts earlier, but i've
been extremely busy recently.

The reason why this game stopped is 2 things:

1. The Voting-function used was ended by the
company that hosted it :-(
2. I didn't have the time to keep the site updated.

brunetti agreed to continue this later, so if i ask
him kindly we can start the game up again.
If doing so it will be hosted at my NEW chess-site
that i am developing right now and that hopefully
is up and running in mostly 1 month :-)

The new site will be somthing completely different
from the old, and MUCH BETTER in any way !
I will host the GKCM-Bunch-game, puzzles, tutorials,
a forum for discussing chess, an internal PM system
and MUCH, MUCH more..... (suggestions welcome).

So if you just keep your head cool for a couple of
weeks it will all be there for everyone to join :-)

Best regards,

Peter sjoroos

Posted by cairo
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6/11/2003
01:43:01

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Peter

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I'm really looking forward to see your new site up and running, good luck :-))

Best wishes
Cairo

Posted by sjoroos
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6/11/2003
13:38:41

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Thanks Sören !

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And i bet you do as you're respresented in the
H.O.F as one of the best players ever here at GK :-)