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| Posted by lorddreyfuss uskidscompute.com 5/27/2003 08:36:33 play online chess |  Subject: KG accepted - interesting lineMessage: I have recently witnessed an interesting line in KG accepted: 1.e4,e5; 2.f4,ef4; 3.Nf3,Se7!?; 4.d4,Sg6 with interesting game... I play exclusively Sicilian as Black, and always 2.Nf3 as White, but still I would be interested to know what people here think of this variation? Thanx! :) |
| Posted by verticalchess uskidscompute.com 5/27/2003 17:09:32 play online chess | Message: Black is losing tempo by moving the Knight twice. In this variation white has complete control of the center with move in hand. Black will have to play aggressively to equalize the position. |
| Posted by silverwolfwsc uskidscompute.com 5/27/2003 17:15:10 play online chess | S Message: What is an S? |
| Posted by verticalchess uskidscompute.com 5/27/2003 17:41:44 play online chess | Message: I assume its a Knight since the moves were e7 and g6 - what does it stand for though? |
| Posted by dorisia uskidscompute.com 5/27/2003 18:44:30 play online chess | S Message: Springer in German, skoczek in Polish, but lorddreyfuss, who is from Croatia, had probably skakac in mind. |
| Posted by loreta uskidscompute.com 5/27/2003 20:57:47 play online chess | Notation Message: Yep, multilanguage confuss. I see I ofter do mistakes in notation too - I had written B (Bogstas)- for Rook, R (Rikis) for Bishop -- and Knight could be Z (Zirgas) :-) |
| Posted by silverwolfwsc uskidscompute.com 5/27/2003 21:41:45 play online chess | S Message: I figured it stood for something, but i couldnt figure out why move 3 for white was Nf3 and for black was Se7. Maybe the white player was speaking english and the other German eh? |
| Posted by lorddreyfuss uskidscompute.com 5/27/2003 23:55:11 play online chess | Khm... :) Message: My mistake!!! In Croatia the notation is the same as in Germany and stands for: K=kralj (king) D=dama (queen) T=top (rook) L=lovac (bishop) S=skakac (knight) Very sorry for the mistake, I was in a hurry so I wasn't concentrated enough! :) Regarding the variation, actually I thought that it is playable! White will probably have to play something like 0-0, Nc3, Ne2 to take the pawn, which gives Black time for c6+d5 and after this maybe also Bd6 with stubborn defence of f4. What do others think? |
| Posted by caldazar uskidscompute.com 5/28/2003 00:50:29 play online chess | Message: White is not going to make a serious effort to try to recover the pawn; it takes too much effort and since Black has spent some time knight hopping, White is probably better off just developing quickly and trying to take advantage of Black's slow play. 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 Ne7 4. d4 Ng6 (4... d5 is a more typical try) 5. h4: 5... d5 6. h5 dxe4 7. hxg6 exf3 8. gxf7+ Kxf7 9. Bc4+ and 10. Qxf3 looks rather promising for White. 5... h5 6. Nc3 c6 7. Bd3 and White has decent play for the pawn. (6... Bb4 7. Bc4 c6 8. O-O is more of the same, trying to gain a large lead in development). I think Black simply loses too much time hopping his knight around only to have it become the target as soon as it arrives on g6. |
| Posted by raimon uskidscompute.com 5/28/2003 01:48:30 play online chess | I don't play 1....e5 Message: so I'm probably not much use to you, but I did play this through out of interest and there are a couple of things that could stand being put to the test (if they haven't already) I agree with caldazar that a king's gambit player is not going to be at all concerned about winning back the pawn - so long as he can get good play for his pieces and open lines. After 5.h4, I believe that 5.....h5 is necessary, so after 6.Nc3 instead of playing 6....c6 which loses more time, black should probably develop a piece with 6....Be7 and if 7.Nd5 then I think that black instead of taking the pawn on h4 with either the knight or the bishop should instead play 7.....d6 which to me looks like a position that might contain good prospects for both defence and counterplay. |
| Posted by white_disc uskidscompute.com 5/28/2003 02:09:25 play online chess | one line in the KG accepted Message: Has anyone tried this line in KG Accepted ? 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 h5 Here, this h5 is a prelude to the move g4. Thanks a lot :) Rgds, white_disc |
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