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| From | Message | Posted by tulkos
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5/23/2003
10:42:07
Play online chess |  Subject: Did I play properly?
Message:
I don't often play the French defense, so I don't know the opening lines very well at all.
I played this game on uschesslive, where my rating has gone from almost 1900 and down to almost 1700.
Could I have some better players, preferably who have knowledge about the strategical ideas involved in the french defense, give me their comments? Thankyou.
gfa (2157) vs. aaronj (1723) --- Fri May 23, 12:42 EDT 2003
Rated standard match, initial time: 15 minutes, increment: 0 seconds.
Move gfa aaronj
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1. d4 (0:00.000) e6 (0:00.000)
2. e4 (0:05.891) d5 (0:03.645)
3. Nd2 (0:06.172) Nf6 (0:14.231)
4. e5 (0:06.750) Nfd7 (0:02.563)
5. Bd3 (0:21.359) c5 (0:11.386)
6. c3 (0:09.734) Nc6 (0:06.499)
7. Ne2 (0:07.219) Qb6 (0:05.157)
8. Nf3 (0:06.984) Be7 (0:26.468)
9. O-O (0:14.719) Nf8 (1:40.715)
10. dxc5 (0:35.719) Bxc5 (0:08.562)
11. b4 (0:07.125) Be7 (0:01.853)
12. b5 (0:33.125) Na5 (0:34.529)
13. Qa4 (0:14.500) Bd7 (1:06.356)
14. Bg5 (0:21.031) Bxg5 (0:34.460)
15. Nxg5 (0:07.015) Ng6 (0:52.495)
16. Qd4 (0:09.032) Qxd4 (0:10.745)
17. cxd4 (0:09.890) O-O (0:24.104)
18. f4 (0:15.422) h6 (0:37.854)
19. Nh3 (0:17.110) Ne7 (0:38.566)
20. Rfc1 (0:35.235) Rac8 (0:05.197)
21. Ng3 (0:20.219) b6 (0:31.535)
22. Rab1 (0:14.172) Nc4 (0:15.973)
23. a4 (0:22.484) Rc7 (0:22.693)
24. Rc2 (0:18.703) Rfc8 (0:08.192)
25. Nf2 (0:53.750) Na3 (0:19.598)
26. Rxc7 (0:15.953) Rxc7 (0:03.325)
27. Ra1 (0:07.782) Rc3 (0:04.276)
28. Ne2 (0:27.797) Rb3 (0:27.730)
29. Rc1 (0:10.656) Nc4 (0:12.899)
30. Bxc4 (0:08.219) dxc4 (0:01.382)
31. Rxc4 (0:08.610) Rb1+ (0:02.313)
32. Nc1 (0:16.406) Nd5 (0:05.318)
33. Nd3 (0:11.547) g6 (0:05.848)
34. Kf2 (0:16.093) Kf8 (0:07.251)
35. Kf3 (0:16.719) Ke7 (0:15.662)
36. Ke2 (0:20.234) Ra1 (0:03.155)
37. Kd2 (0:41.921) Ra3 (0:21.381)
38. g3 (0:30.625) h5 (0:03.915)
39. Nb2 (0:23.750) Rf3 (0:42.080)
40. Ncd3 (0:13.812) Rf1 (0:13.549)
41. Rc1 (0:12.953) Rxc1 (0:08.733)
42. Nxc1 (0:07.531) f6 (0:15.753)
43. exf6+ (0:13.031) Kxf6 (0:02.293)
44. Nbd3 (0:07.109) Kf5 (0:03.195)
45. Ne5 (0:11.609) Bc8 (0:08.732)
46. h3 (1:04.625) Nf6 (0:11.777)
47. Ncd3 (0:02.813) Ne4+ (0:03.305)
48. Ke3 (0:15.843) Nxg3 (0:04.016)
49. Nc6 (0:02.812) Bb7 (0:03.005)
50. Nxa7 (0:02.875) Ne4 (0:10.976)
51. Nb4 (0:21.422) Nc3 (0:02.784)
52. Nbc6 (0:23.344) Nxa4 (0:09.033)
53. Nd8 (0:02.031) Bg2 (0:06.369)
54. Nc8 (0:09.906) Bxh3 (0:03.415)
55. Nxb6 (0:01.296) Nxb6 (0:02.654)
56. Nc6 (0:01.718) Na4 (0:01.953)
57. Nb4 (0:01.500) Bg2 (0:01.953)
58. Nc6 (0:02.921) h4 (0:03.254)
59. Ne7+ (0:02.906) Kf6 (0:02.393)
60. Ng8+ (0:04.453) Kg7 (0:01.402)
61. Ne7 (0:03.437) h3 (0:01.742)
{White forfeits on time} 0-1
| Posted by tulkos
uskidscompute.com
5/23/2003
10:50:05
Play online chess | by the way,
Message:
If you find the time taken for the move annoying, here is the game without it:
I don't often play the French defense, so I don't know the opening lines very well at all. I played this game on uschesslive, where my rating has gone from almost 1900 and down to almost 1700. Could I have some better players, preferably who have knowledge about the strategical ideas involved in the french defense give me their comments? Thankyou.
gfa (2157) vs. aaronj (1723) --- Fri May 23, 12:42 EDT 2003
Rated standard match, initial time: 15 minutes, increment: 0 seconds.
Move gfa aaronj
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1. d4 e6
2. e4 d5
3. Nd2 Nf6
4. e5 Nfd7
5. Bd3 c5
6. c3 Nc6
7. Ne2 Qb6
8. Nf3 Be7
9. O-O Nf8
10. dxc5 Bxc5
11. b4 Be7
12. b5 Na5
13. Qa4 Bd7
14. Bg5 Bxg5
15. Nxg5 Ng6
16. Qd4 Qxd4
17. cxd4 O-O
18. f4 h6
19. Nh3 Ne7
20. Rfc1 Rac8
21. Ng3 b6
22. Rab1 Nc4
23. a4 Rc7
24. Rc2 Rfc8
25. Nf2 Na3
26. Rxc7 Rxc7
27. Ra1 Rc3
28. Ne2 Rb3
29. Rc1 Nc4
30. Bxc4 dxc4
31. Rxc4 Rb1+
32. Nc1 Nd5
33. Nd3 g6
34. Kf2 Kf8
35. Kf3 Ke7
36. Ke2 Ra1
37. Kd2 Ra3
38. g3 h5
39. Nb2 Rf3
40. Ncd3 Rf1
41. Rc1 Rxc1
42. Nxc1 f6
43. exf6+ Kxf6
44. Nbd3 Kf5
45. Ne5 Bc8
46. h3 Nf6
47. Ncd3 Ne4+
48. Ke3 Nxg3
49. Nc6 Bb7
50. Nxa7 Ne4
51. Nb4 Nc3
52. Nbc6 Nxa4
53. Nd8 Bg2
54. Nc8 Bxh3
55. Nxb6 Nxb6
56. Nc6 Na4
57. Nb4 Bg2
58. Nc6 h4
59. Ne7+ Kf6
60. Ng8+ Kg7
61. Ne7 h3
{White forfeits on time} 0-1
| Posted by brobishkin
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5/23/2003
11:23:05
Play online chess | Interesting...
Message:
Where did you find the time to note the time signatures and moves?... I often right down the moves, but hardly the time taken... Only when I have a long think do I put down a notation on the amount of time taken for that particular move... But every move?... No way...
Bro...
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| Posted by tulkos
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5/23/2003
11:30:34
Play online chess | I didn't have to write down the time for the
Message:
moves, uschesslive does that for you! it's a nice feature I think.
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| Posted by tulkos
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5/23/2003
18:53:14
Play online chess | soooo
Message:
Is nobody interested in my little effort? I can try to do better if you like---
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| Posted by lordnguyenvo
uskidscompute.com
5/23/2003
21:02:17
Play online chess | Hi
Message:
In the French,Black two main counter resources are c5 and f6.In your particular game,Black need the f6 in order to bomb the White center(you didnt do that and your position was pretty cramp for the whole game).After f6,the position can come to :the d4 White pawn against d5 and e6 of Black.Most common position I think,Black try to push e5 and gain some space+well-placed pieces,while White use the e5 square for the knight and can further block Black pawn e6 with f4,then start for a King or Queen side attack.The main opening line goes like this:1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 Nf6 4.e5 Nfd7 5.Bd3 c5 6.c3 Nc67.Ne2 Qb6 8.Nf3 cd4 9.cd4 f6 10.ef6 Nf6 11.0-0 Bd6 etc.So it is pretty much like your game but with an achieve of two good pieces for a "weak" pawn.Sorry i was going too deep into the opening but i think it pretty much decided the game.
Hope i help and my long post doesnt bother you.
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| Posted by raimon
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5/23/2003
22:27:06
Play online chess | tulkos
Message:
I have been playing the french defence for about 25 years - but for some reason have never played 3.....Nf6 against the tarrasch or 3.Nc3 (so you might want take other opinions).
Your idea of moving the knight to g6 via 9....Nf8 before castling is probably sound - although I am wondering if white has a better continuation than what was played to exploit the temporary awkward placement of pieces.
The position after castling at move 17 closely resembles a lot of positions reached after the advance variation (1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5) and in my opinion is pretty much equal.
In a lot of these types of position it is hard to avoid the exchange of the blacksquared bishops.
Blacks usually has good play on the queenside and is sometimes able to control the c file.
Blacks white squared bishop is very often restricted by pawns but if white exchanges his bishop for the knight on g6 the outcome is often a draw.
your 27....Rc3 was a mistake - better to retreat the knight.
Some of the strategies in the french resemble those of the KID even though positions are vastly different - black accepts slightly cramped positions and less control of space in the hope that white will overextend and allow counteratacking possibilities.
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| Posted by tulkos
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5/25/2003
18:10:01
Play online chess | So I didn't make any bad tactical errors?
Message:
sorry if I seem probing, but I would like to know more, as I was very happy over this game, and would like to know if I made any other errors besides 27...Rc3.
| Posted by budakkampung
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5/25/2003
21:15:54
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Message:
Some comments..
-Black should play 8.. dxc4 9. dxc4 f6..
-white punished black by playing 10. cxd5 Bxd5 11.b4 Be7 12.b5 Na5 and now white should play 13. Nf4 for good king side activity which give white advantage in term of space and piece play
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