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Posted by h86m uskidscompute.com
5/23/2003 04:56:18 Play online chess | Subject: Doubled pawns
Message: Doubled pawns are usually troublesome.
Are there many circumstances under which they can be made use of?
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Posted by cairo uskidscompute.com
5/23/2003 05:32:12 Play online chess | Speaking
Message: of doublepawns, I have this game ongoing, with a rather unusual pawn-structure.
board #783820
Mind you, since this is a live game, please NO comments and any evalution of the game, about who is standing best etc.
Best wishes
Cairo
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Posted by themadphantom uskidscompute.com
5/23/2003 06:08:46 Play online chess | I can't stand doubled pawns
Message: Even though people always trick me into having them. I know that they sometimes have advantages, but I don't know what they are. ——— Upstarts Sneak Into U.S. Chess Semifinals — This year’s United States Chess Championships, which are being held in St. Louis, have produced some expected results, but there have also been surprises. The pretournament favorites, including the defending champions among the men and women, have qualified for the semifinals, which start Saturday. But two upstarts have also qualified and one top chess player was eliminated in tie-breaker games on Friday. Unlike last year, the men’s and women’s chess tournaments are being held concurrently. The men’s field had 16 players and was divided into two preliminary groups, with the top two in each group advancing to the semifinals. The preliminaries were round robins, meaning each competitor faced all ...
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Posted by clemens uskidscompute.com
5/23/2003 12:13:38 Play online chess |
Message: I think doubled pawns can be an advantage if they give you increased control over the centre. Also, you always get an open file with doubled pawns. ——— Chess Notes — And now for some unconventional chess. This game is Panchanathan v. Sadorra, played in the University of Texas-Dallas International, a Scheveningen tourney in which teams play each other and register both individual and team results. But who are these chess players, relative unknowns suddenly in the spotlight? Magesh Panchanathan, playing White in this game, is a 21-year-old Indian student at UTD who recently tied for first in the Philadelphia World Open and won norms sufficient to give him grandmaster status. His opponent, Julio Sadorra, is a Philippine who became a GM by virtue of his unusual wins in this chess contest. The game is from the fourth round in which Sadorra shows ...
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Posted by jean_marc uskidscompute.com
5/23/2003 13:56:17 Play online chess | Check
Message: this out:
www.chessplayer.com/doubled.htm ——— Armenia makes chess compulsory in schools — Armenia is to make chess a compulsory subject in primary schools in an attempt to turn itself into a global force in the game, the education ministry said on Friday. "Teaching chess in schools will create a solid basis for the country to become a chess superpower," an official at the ministry, Arman Aivazian, told AFP. The authorities led by President Serzh Sarkisian, an enthusiastic supporter of the game of chess, have committed around $1.5 million (one million euros) to the scheme -- a large sum in the impoverished but chess-mad country. Children from the age of six will learn chess as a separate subject on the curriculum for two hours a week. Aivazian said ...
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Posted by lordnguyenvo uskidscompute.com
5/23/2003 13:59:40 Play online chess | sometimes double pawns can be an advantage
Message: if it controls the important squares.say your pawns were c3 and c4 and e4,the opponent's were c5 and e5(number of pawns are equal,i just name the central ones),in this position white have a perfect outpost square for his knight at d5,but black doesnt due to the "weak"c3 pawn so white have a clear advantage.
and like clemens said,the open(half-open)file can be use to attack back at your opponent's pawn.
but if you have double pawns at the endgame,you are pretty much losing.
——— Paranoia served Fischer well on chess board — Bobby Fischer was characteristically defensive and even conspiratorial. His anti-Semitic theories, for one, were off-the-wall. But his fears weren't always so patently without merit, as when he claimed that the "Russians" had tried to rig a chess tournament against him by accepting quick and easy draws against one another. His dread of journalists was motivated by grievous experiences at the hands of a sensationalistic press. His quirky, outspoken manner made him an easy, if not appetizing, target. Fischer clearly was aware of the issue of paranoia. During an appearance on Dick Cavett's talk show in 1971, Fischer looked over his shoulder and declared humorously: "The paranoids are ...
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Posted by mettlesome uskidscompute.com
5/23/2003 23:34:01 Play online chess | Well...
Message: I think that doubled pawns are often fine, but doubled ISOLATED pawns can be a bit of a headache....
Mettlesome ——— For World Chess Champion, Two Uncommon Losses — Except for the world’s top chess players, few people ever have the chance to play a world chess champion. The exceptions are simultaneous exhibitions, where the champion will play 20 or 30 people at a time. Even then, though the champion has a bit of a handicap, it is a potentially intimidating experience. Garry Kasparov, the former world chess champion, who continues to give simuls, is so competitive that he hates to even yield a draw. Since he became world chess champion in 1985 and retired in 2005, he has rarely lost. Viswanathan Anand of India, the current titleholder, does not have Kasparov’s fire, but he would not be champion if he were not exceptionally competitive. It must have been a bit of ...
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Posted by tulkos uskidscompute.com
5/24/2003 12:35:57 Play online chess | this is a weird doubled pawn formation---
Message: or will be soon. board #838336
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Posted by brobishkin uskidscompute.com
5/24/2003 16:19:10 Play online chess | Doubled pawns...
Message: Most amatuer players think when you have a doubled pawn you most definately have a weakness... But there is another side to these double pawn curses most amateurs don't understand... When an amateur gets these so called doubled pawns, he usually panics because he is not aware of the "dynamic" potential inherent with this pawn structure... The simple truth is, it's impossible to label anything in chess as always being weak...
The negative side of doubled pawns is it reduces their flexibility and at times, leaves one or both vulnerable to attack...
The positive side is the doubling pawns lead to an extra open file for your Rooks and increases square control...
Bro...
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Posted by superblunder uskidscompute.com
5/24/2003 16:32:48 Play online chess | Why did you sign your post: Bro..
Message: when it is clearly obvious that you just ripped off Silman's book word for word without giving him any credit.
It is ok to quote players, but not to have any original ideas and then to pretend someone else's idea are your own is low.
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Posted by brobishkin uskidscompute.com
5/24/2003 17:05:53 Play online chess | Let me get on thing clear here...
Message: When questions are asked in a class about a certain subject, where do you go for the answer?... A book... Or if you want to know how to fix a certain problem on a vehicle, where do you go for instruction on how to diagnose and fix the vehicle properly?... A repair manual...
Why should explanations on certain chess positions be any different... Can it be stated any clearer then the book?... I didn't take it word for word but the discription of the weaknesses are crystal clear...
Bro...
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Posted by brobishkin uskidscompute.com
5/24/2003 17:14:56 Play online chess | By the way...
Message: I always sign my posts... What do you have against it?...
Opps... I even signed my last post... Maybe I riped off that from some book on explanations...
Where exactly did I state that I actually made this knowledge up on my own accord?... I was simply stating common chess knowledge of doubled pawns... And guess where I got most if mot all my chess knowledge from?... Chess Books... Low and behold, have I just shown you a mystery?...
Bro...
Opps... I've signed another one...
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Posted by superblunder uskidscompute.com
5/24/2003 18:03:23 Play online chess | well....
Message: you could have at least given the author credit for his words, it is common courtesy when quoting someone.
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Posted by caldazar uskidscompute.com
5/24/2003 18:30:03 Play online chess |
Message: First off, you did copy Silman's work; changing a word or two here and there isn't enough to let you off the hook; it's still plagiarism.
"If you ask an amateur player what he thinks of when you say hanging, doubled, backward, or isolated pawns, the most likely response will be 'a weakness.' Unfortunately, most amateurs don't really know how to go after pawn weaknesses, much preferring the thrill of a King-hunt. The other side of the story follows the same pattern. If the amateur gets these so called weaknesses, he usually panics because he is not aware of the dynamic potential inherent in all these structures. The simple truth is, it's impossible to label anything in chess as always being weak."
-Jeremy Silman, "The Amateur's Mind," 2nd Edition/Expanded, p107.
Second, by merely writing, you are claiming the thoughts are your own. That's why people bother to quote others at all. You don't make a point of mentioning when something is original; you make a point of mentioning when something is someone else's idea. Quoting is not just a matter of courtesy. Even though of course the basic idea behind doubled pawns is well-known, Silman spent time organizing his thoughts into what he felt was a clear and concise explanation, and by not giving him credit, you're stealing his efforts and his work. If you don't want to quote, then you're supposed to take the time and effort to do the work and formulate your own explanation.
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Posted by desertfox uskidscompute.com
5/25/2003 03:30:47 Play online chess | Plagiarism
Message: is a bad thing. Give credit to the orginal author. Every serious educated person does it, Bro., so why do you think you are exempt from it?
I also have a game going on with icetrap, in which he has two doubled pawns. Trouble is Use user_id and bd=game-number are hieroglyfics and not codes. I can't make a link with orange letters.
icetrap bd#843363
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Posted by desertfox uskidscompute.com
5/25/2003 03:32:57 Play online chess | Plagiarism
Message: is a bad thing. Give credit to the orginal author. Every serious educated person does it, Bro., so why do you think you are exempt from it?
I also have a game going on with icetrap, in which he has two doubled pawns. Trouble is Use user_id and bd=game-number are hieroglyphics and not codes. I can't make a link with orange letters.
Anyway, the game no. is #843363
Anyone can explain to me this orange link business with an example, maybe I will understand it then.
Desertfox
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Posted by clemens uskidscompute.com
5/25/2003 07:07:42 Play online chess | desertfox
Message: What's the problem with the board links? It's really very easy: you type bd=???????, where the ????? is of course the board number. Putting a real example is difficult since the parser will of course convert it to a link, but, for instance:
bd_1234567
where you have to use a = instead of a _, for said reasons.
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Posted by lordnguyenvo uskidscompute.com
5/25/2003 08:37:16 Play online chess |
Message: you type the name like this: id=(the name of the the player)
and for the board: bd=(board number)
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Posted by desertfox uskidscompute.com
5/25/2003 22:57:40 Play online chess |
Message: icetrap bd= 843363
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Posted by desertfox uskidscompute.com
5/25/2003 22:58:00 Play online chess |
Message: icetrap bd= 843363
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Posted by desertfox uskidscompute.com
5/25/2003 23:01:04 Play online chess |
Message: icetrap:board #843363
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Posted by desertfox uskidscompute.com
5/25/2003 23:09:32 Play online chess | Finally I got it, thanks a lot
Message: purple:board #840356 is anothe example where a double pawn is an asset. My opponent had the pair of bishops to compensate for a pawn less. He wrongly exchanged is bishop for one of my knights, thinking that if a creates a double pawns for me while doing it, he does good. He was wrong, doubling the pawns opened a file for my rook which finally could enter the game. He gained back his pawn but my pieces are zeroing in on his king.
icetrap:board=843363 is an opposite example. Two double pawns in the opponent's camp are a burden and I intend to use it as much as I can.
Desertfox
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Posted by desertfox uskidscompute.com
5/25/2003 23:10:05 Play online chess | Finally I got it, thanks a lot
Message: purple:board #840356 is anothe example where a double pawn is an asset. My opponent had the pair of bishops to compensate for a pawn less. He wrongly exchanged is bishop for one of my knights, thinking that if a creates a double pawns for me while doing it, he does good. He was wrong, doubling the pawns opened a file for my rook which finally could enter the game. He gained back his pawn but my pieces are zeroing in on his king.
icetrap:board #843363 is an opposite example. Two double pawns in the opponent's camp are a burden and I intend to use it as much as I can.
Desertfox
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