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| Posted by bluebabygirl uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 16:41:31 Play online chess |  Subject: Rueben Fine did you know this ---Message: THAT NOT ONLY WAS HE A FANTASTIC PLAYER/WRITER , JOINT WINNER AVRO 1938 WITH PAUL KERES, BUT ALSO AN ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC BLINDFOLD PLAYER??At the end of the of the 1945 radio match United States vs. the USSR, Mr. Fine played 4 games simultaneously ,blindfold at 10 second a move !!!!! he won all 4 games . one of the opponents that he beat was a 15 year old Robert Bryne , who later became one of America's strongest masters and eventually Grandmaster. so now my 2 questions , given that Mr. Fine was co-champion with Paul Keres AVRO 1938 - HOW OR WHY DID HE NEVER BECOME WORLD CHAMP?? 2- HOW COULD HE PLAY SUCH A HIGH LEVEL BLINDFOLD 10 SECOND A MOVE CHESS???? AND WIN SO MANY GAMES DOING IT . yours the bluebabygirl .. p.s. I know there will be people here that can answer these questions . I anxiuosly await their replies .ALL COMMENTS ARE WELCOME !!!!!!!!! |
| Posted by gambitnut uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 16:49:36 Play online chess | Answer to number one Message: He gave up chess for psychoanalysis. |
| Posted by bluebabygirl uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 17:11:17 Play online chess | to gambitnut Message: yes but why give it up ??? must have been some fantastic reason !!!!! with him being that great a player !! I would rather give up my favorite cat than give up chess .ME NEVER NEVER !!can you tell what ,when, and why on his giving up ??? and maybe comment on number 2 , yours bluebabygirl ——— The Scotch Opening, part 5: a dynamic endgame opportunity — How does White do something with this passive position? Howell-Werle, London 2009. White to play. Concluding our brief survey of the Scotch (1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 d4 exd4 4 Nxd4), we look at the kind of dynamic endgame struggle that can arise from this old but still important chess opening. RB White's position after 1 exf5 Nxf5 2 Re1 (or 2 e4, or 2 Kd2) is so passive – and the e-pawn likely to be a long-term weakness – that White's best chance is to push with 1 e5. Assuming Black takes (1...d5 2 Na4 followed by Nc5 would give the white knight a great post ) with 1...dxe5, White has 2 Bc4, developing his bishop ... |
| Posted by gambitnut uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 17:21:39 Play online chess | Number two is easy! Message: He was really good! As for why he gave up chess, I have no idea, you'd have to ask a psychoanalyst for the answer to that! ——— Chess notes — All eyes this week were on the Corus chess tournament at Wijk aan Zee, the Netherlands, which had about everything one could hope for: drama, contention, star players, and great chess. The event’s sponsor, Corus, is a steel manufacturing and construction company, which was recently acquired by Tate Steel, India’s second largest privately held company. This corporation is a sponsor of many athletic and cultural events throughout Europe and hopefully will continue this great chess event in future years. The “Corus Line’’ in this tourney included, among its 14 contestants, nearly all of the world’s leading Grandmasters, except for Veselin Topalov of Bulgaria and Levon Aronian of ... |
| Posted by v_glorioso12 uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 17:44:23 Play online chess | hey Message: bluebabygirl , im gald to see you talking like regular people ;-) ——— World's No. 1 Chess Player Widens Lead Over His Biggest Rivals — History will record 1990 as a great year for chess players: it was when three of the current top 25 players in the world were born. The youngest of the three is Magnus Carlsen of Norway, who is No. 1 in the world. Of the other two, Maxime Vachier-Lagrave of France is No. 18, and Sergey Karjakin, who was born in Ukraine but now plays for Russia, is No. 21. Under different circumstances, Karjakin and Vachier-Lagrave would be considered potential world chess champions. But just as the talented players in the 2003 N.B.A. draft have labored in LeBron James’s shadow, Karjakin and Vachier-Lagrave have been eclipsed by Carlsen. In Karjakin’s case, it is puzzling. He was the youngest ... |
| Posted by bluebabygirl uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 18:28:33 Play online chess | v_glorioso12 Message: what you mean regular people???? i have always been a regular person. never knew i was anything but !!! I never talk down to people . I just ask questions and state my opinion like anybody else does . now do you care to comment on Rueben Fine . I am trying to find out all I can about him. but thanks for your previuos comment too , yours bluebabygirl ——— Vishy Anand helps Magnus Carlsen to claim Corus crown — When Vishy Anand drew his first nine games at Corus Wijk aan Zee last week, opinions were divided on whether the world chess champion had lost his edge or was simply taking a well-paid rest before his April title defence in Sofia against Veselin Topalov. Then Anand acted as Corus king-maker, beating Alexei Shirov and Vlad Kramnik, so that the pair finished half a point behind Magnus Carlsen. Norway's world No1 had previously won at Pearl Spring in China and the London Classic and finished second at the Tal Memorial, His fine run continued at Wijk, and the live ratings now make him the all-time No2 to Garry Kasparov. Carlsen had final-round luck in Holland, and the impression is that ... |
| Posted by crayons uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 19:45:49 Play online chess | If you ask me... Message: Reuben Fine was a little off... Good chess player though. Come to think of it there have been a few of the greats that were a little off, take Fischer for example, I think Morphy too towards the end of his career. ——— Fresh ideas from Adams — The Governor of Gibraltar Sir Adrian Johns visited the Gibtelecom Masters at the Caleta Hotel and chose the day the chess competition intensified as England’s Michael Adams regained a share of the lead with a ninth round win. Adams produced a new idea in the opening against the French Defence and although it did not look particularly dangerous he gradually outplayed the Argentinian GM Damian Lemos to reach 7/9. All the games were hardfought with the exception of the top board where the leader at start of play Jan Gustafsson was content to force an early draw against top seed Etienne Bacrot. With one to play Adams shares the lead with ... |
| Posted by buddy2 uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 19:46:10 Play online chess | Fred Reinfield Message: And how about Fred Reinfield? Must have written dozens of books on chess in 40's and 50's but nobody knows anything about him! |
| Posted by chessnovice uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 19:51:46 Play online chess | ... Message: You know, to be such a high calibre chess player as Fischer and Fine, you need to be a little off. Imagine constantly studying and analyzing in such depth that you're aiming for a world championship. That's enough to drive anyone crazy. |
| Posted by crayons uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 20:06:35 Play online chess | chessnovice... Message: I have to agree with you there. To possibly provide some insight BBG's question regarding why Fine left the chess world to pursue psychoanalysis: I believe Fine went into his chess career as a temporary source of income after finding the job market very poor during the depression... |
| Posted by crayons uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 20:26:11 Play online chess | Message: Just did a little research... Apparently WW2 disrupted international chess competition. So as a supporter the war, he did some work translating and some classified stuff. After the wars end he tried quite actively to organize "a championship chess competition of some sort" but finding little interest from chess authorities in taking action without delay and little money from sponsers, gave up and focused his energies on other things, among them psycology... he was asked to participate in later chess events but turned them down pretty much ending his career. |
| Posted by baseline uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 05:50:42 Play online chess | Fred Reinfeld Message: was a strong player a former New York State Champion. Back in those days the NY State Championship was nearly as tough as the U.S. Championship. |
| Posted by buddy2 uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 07:24:20 Play online chess | baseline and Reinfield Message: Thanks for the info on Fred. Do you have a date on that championship? |
| Posted by cairo uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 07:41:13 Play online chess | Reuben Fine Message: all I can think of is, the 100 and 100 hours of reading/training thru basic chess ending. Today I can see, there is a lot of 1/2 points turned into full points in my favor, due to the knowledge of the basic principles in the endgame. I can warmly recommend players to study endgames on all levels. Sorry bluebabygirl if this was a little of topic, to your heading of the thread. I got inspired by the mention of Fine :-)) Best wishes Cairo |
| Posted by macheide uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 10:04:54 Play online chess | An almost unknown fact Message: Dear bluebabygirl, When my great compatriot Carlos Torre (yes, the guy that, in his 21st birthday, defeated ex-World Champion Emmanuel Lasker with a famous windmill combination in the Moscow Tournament in 1925) came to live in my city, many years ago, he played here a minimatch of two games against the great Reuben Fine. The outcome: +1-1. The games were played, according to some very old players of our chess circle, in "El Círculo Mercantil Mutualista", a beautiful building where today we, the OTB players, compite in the local weekend tournaments. Best regards, macheide Post data: I also agree with my friend cairo, study Fine´s BCE is a great way to falling in love with the endgame phase of the game. It has many errata, but it´s a treasure of knowledge. I think someone of the caliber of GM Pal Benkö or GM John Nunn could revise and correct this book, just to keep this great work up to date. |
| Posted by rubicox uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 17:02:05 Play online chess | blindfold chess Message: to play blindfold chess isnt that hard, i can play 3 boards at once(my rating drops dramaticly), but all you have to do is have a good memory, if you have that then youll play just as well blindfolded as over the board. Alos i was thinking of this movie that came out in 2001 and was called the Lucin Defense(pardon my spelling) which is a very good movie that rivals searching for bobby fischer, is this in any way related to Rubin? |
| Posted by bluebabygirl uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 23:50:28 Play online chess | to rubicox Message: MR, FINE PLAYED BLINFOLD CHESS AT 10 SECONDS A MOVE SIMULTANIOUS TOO 4 GAMES AT ONCE !!!! CAN YOU DO THAT ??? OR SAY ITS NOT HARD . I THINK LATER ON HE INCREASED IT TO MORE GAMES !! BBG |
| Posted by chessnovice uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 23:55:27 Play online chess | ... Message: His point wasn't that the time control was easy, but that playing chess blindfolded isn't as difficult as it would appear. Certainly 10 seconds per move would be difficult when playing 4 blindfolded games simultaneously - but the time control would be as difficult even without the blindfold. That's why Fine was a grandmaster, though... because he could do such amazing things with the chessboard. |
| Posted by h86m uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 23:59:57 Play online chess | record for playing blindfolded Message: And one know what the record is for playing blindfold chess? (with a respectable win to loss ratio, offcourse) |
| Posted by baseline uskidscompute.com 5/23/2003 04:43:45 Play online chess | buddy2 Message: I read it in Larry Evans column in Chess Life & Review sometime ago. Sorry I don't remember all the details just that he was a former NY State Champ in the 30's and that his best books have been long out of print. |
| Posted by ranknfile uskidscompute.com 5/23/2003 16:11:00 Play online chess | George Kowtanowski... Message: played a 40-game blindfold simultaneous. I don't know if that's a record, nor do I know the win/loss ratio. The ratio was probably pretty good, I just don't know the specific numbers. |
| Posted by atrifix uskidscompute.com 5/23/2003 16:18:04 Play online chess | Message: Koltanowski played a 34-board blindfold simul, scoring +24=10. Najdorf holds the record, I think, playing 45 boards at once, with a scsore of +39=4-2, but I think Koltanowski's opposition was stronger than Najdorf's. |
| Posted by raimon uskidscompute.com 5/23/2003 16:23:33 Play online chess | Miguel Najdorf Message: played 45 simultaneous blindfold games in Brazil 1947 - won 39, lost 2 & drew 4. That was recognised as a world record - don't know if it still stands. |
| Posted by raimon uskidscompute.com 5/23/2003 16:25:36 Play online chess | Sorry atrifix Message: didn't see your post. |
| Posted by h86m uskidscompute.com 5/23/2003 20:24:35 Play online chess | 45 games blindfolded.. Message: OMG - some people really are so amazing.. |
| Posted by bluebabygirl uskidscompute.com 5/25/2003 00:15:48 Play online chess | to h86m Message: well there are some really amazing players on this SITE!!!!!!! However Im not one of them but you can look them up and several have threads on the forum !!! and they are very nice too !! yours bluebabygirl |
| Posted by badjessie uskidscompute.com 6/11/2003 20:14:30 Play online chess | Message: fine was a average good player. he wrote better than he played . now how many touchdowns did he score last year. later |