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| Posted by bluebabygirl uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 16:41:31 Play online chess |  Subject: Rueben Fine did you know this ---Message: THAT NOT ONLY WAS HE A FANTASTIC PLAYER/WRITER , JOINT WINNER AVRO 1938 WITH PAUL KERES, BUT ALSO AN ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC BLINDFOLD PLAYER??At the end of the of the 1945 radio match United States vs. the USSR, Mr. Fine played 4 games simultaneously ,blindfold at 10 second a move !!!!! he won all 4 games . one of the opponents that he beat was a 15 year old Robert Bryne , who later became one of America's strongest masters and eventually Grandmaster. so now my 2 questions , given that Mr. Fine was co-champion with Paul Keres AVRO 1938 - HOW OR WHY DID HE NEVER BECOME WORLD CHAMP?? 2- HOW COULD HE PLAY SUCH A HIGH LEVEL BLINDFOLD 10 SECOND A MOVE CHESS???? AND WIN SO MANY GAMES DOING IT . yours the bluebabygirl .. p.s. I know there will be people here that can answer these questions . I anxiuosly await their replies .ALL COMMENTS ARE WELCOME !!!!!!!!! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted by gambitnut uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 16:49:36 Play online chess | Answer to number one Message: He gave up chess for psychoanalysis. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted by bluebabygirl uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 17:11:17 Play online chess | to gambitnut Message: yes but why give it up ??? must have been some fantastic reason !!!!! with him being that great a player !! I would rather give up my favorite cat than give up chess .ME NEVER NEVER !!can you tell what ,when, and why on his giving up ??? and maybe comment on number 2 , yours bluebabygirl ——— Corus Chess -- Showdown in the Netherlands — Where do you go when you get a week off? One option is to escape the cold weather sweeping the U.S. and head for a sunny beach. My wife and I are trying something different. Both fans of tournament chess, we decided to spend the week in the Netherlands to see the strongest chess players in the world compete in one of the most prestigious annual events, Corus Chess. I told my editors what we were doing, and for reasons I still can’t quite fathom, they asked if I’d wanted to blog the action for “The Fabulous Forum.” As chess commentators go, I’m an unorthodox choice. My day job is covering the Obama presidency for the Tribune Washington Bureau. Obama plays chess, we’re ... Posted by gambitnut | uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 17:21:39 Play online chess Number two is easy!Message: He was really good! As for why he gave up chess, I have no idea, you'd have to ask a psychoanalyst for the answer to that! ——— Israeli's Blunder Sets Up a Surprising Finish — The biggest team event in chess is the biennial Olympiad, which was first held in 1924. At the last one, in Dresden, Germany, in 2008, teams from 146 nations competed. A similar tournament, the World Team Chess Championship, which has been held every four years since 1985, is much smaller. Though it is not considered as prestigious as the Olympiad, perhaps it should be. Only 10 teams compete, but they usually include the top three squads from the most recent Olympiad; the chess champions from Europe, Asia, Africa and the Americas; two teams that are invited to participate; and one from the host country. The most recent championship ended in Bursa, Turkey, last ... Posted by v_glorioso12 | uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 17:44:23 Play online chess heyMessage: bluebabygirl , im gald to see you talking like regular people ;-) ——— Jonathan Hawkins and Peter Williams shine at Hastings Masters — The Hastings Masters, as ever generously supported by the local council, had two significant English successes besides the triumph of the 19-year-old David Howell and Mark Hebden, 51, who shared first prize with chess players from France and Romania. Jonathan Hawkins qualified for the international master title with his third IM performance in as many tournaments. The remarkable feature was that he did it aged 26, living in Durham away from major chess centres, and that he learned his chess skills from a computer without a human coach. Hawkins was graded 102, a weak novice, at age 14, and 158, moderate club standard, at 19, but he has surged in his ... Posted by bluebabygirl | uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 18:28:33 Play online chess v_glorioso12Message: what you mean regular people???? i have always been a regular person. never knew i was anything but !!! I never talk down to people . I just ask questions and state my opinion like anybody else does . now do you care to comment on Rueben Fine . I am trying to find out all I can about him. but thanks for your previuos comment too , yours bluebabygirl ——— H Bomb fuse fizzles out — Hikaru Nakamura’s wonderful run came to an end at the World Chess Team Championships as world number five Levon Aronian managed to overcome the American’s King’s Indian Defence with the aid of a strong novelty in the opening and win the chess match for Armenia. The lead changed hands again and with one to play Russia are one match point ahead of the USA after crushing Egypt 3.5-0.5. Russia face Israel in the last round while the USA must overcome the European champions Azerbaijan who are still just about in the hunt for gold. ... Posted by crayons | uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 19:45:49 Play online chess If you ask me...Message: Reuben Fine was a little off... Good chess player though. Come to think of it there have been a few of the greats that were a little off, take Fischer for example, I think Morphy too towards the end of his career. ——— Malakhov cocktail — Hikaru Nakamura took his personal score to 4.5/5 with another victory as the USA defeated Brazil 3-1 to stay level with Russia at the World Chess Team Championships. The leaders have suffered only one match defeat but Russia lead on the basis of the individual result between the two chess teams. Russia struggled to overcome India but won a long game on board 4. Armenia crashed to a 3-1 defeat at the hands of Greece who have also defeated Russia. The Armenians brought misfortune upon themselves by taking some outrageous risks with the black pieces and lost both games. Leading scores with game points in brackets: 1 Russia 10/12 ... Posted by buddy2 | uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 19:46:10 Play online chess Fred ReinfieldMessage: And how about Fred Reinfield? Must have written dozens of books on chess in 40's and 50's but nobody knows anything about him! Posted by chessnovice | uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 19:51:46 Play online chess ...Message: You know, to be such a high calibre chess player as Fischer and Fine, you need to be a little off. Imagine constantly studying and analyzing in such depth that you're aiming for a world championship. That's enough to drive anyone crazy. Posted by crayons | uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 20:06:35 Play online chess chessnovice...Message: I have to agree with you there. To possibly provide some insight BBG's question regarding why Fine left the chess world to pursue psychoanalysis: I believe Fine went into his chess career as a temporary source of income after finding the job market very poor during the depression... Posted by crayons | uskidscompute.com 5/21/2003 20:26:11 Play online chess Message: Just did a little research... Apparently WW2 disrupted international chess competition. So as a supporter the war, he did some work translating and some classified stuff. After the wars end he tried quite actively to organize "a championship chess competition of some sort" but finding little interest from chess authorities in taking action without delay and little money from sponsers, gave up and focused his energies on other things, among them psycology... he was asked to participate in later chess events but turned them down pretty much ending his career. Posted by baseline | uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 05:50:42 Play online chess Fred ReinfeldMessage: was a strong player a former New York State Champion. Back in those days the NY State Championship was nearly as tough as the U.S. Championship. Posted by buddy2 | uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 07:24:20 Play online chess baseline and ReinfieldMessage: Thanks for the info on Fred. Do you have a date on that championship? Posted by cairo | uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 07:41:13 Play online chess Reuben FineMessage: all I can think of is, the 100 and 100 hours of reading/training thru basic chess ending. Today I can see, there is a lot of 1/2 points turned into full points in my favor, due to the knowledge of the basic principles in the endgame. I can warmly recommend players to study endgames on all levels. Sorry bluebabygirl if this was a little of topic, to your heading of the thread. I got inspired by the mention of Fine :-)) Best wishes Cairo Posted by macheide | uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 10:04:54 Play online chess An almost unknown factMessage: Dear bluebabygirl, When my great compatriot Carlos Torre (yes, the guy that, in his 21st birthday, defeated ex-World Champion Emmanuel Lasker with a famous windmill combination in the Moscow Tournament in 1925) came to live in my city, many years ago, he played here a minimatch of two games against the great Reuben Fine. The outcome: +1-1. The games were played, according to some very old players of our chess circle, in "El Crculo Mercantil Mutualista", a beautiful building where today we, the OTB players, compite in the local weekend tournaments. Best regards, macheide Post data: I also agree with my friend cairo, study Fines BCE is a great way to falling in love with the endgame phase of the game. It has many errata, but its a treasure of knowledge. I think someone of the caliber of GM Pal Benk or GM John Nunn could revise and correct this book, just to keep this great work up to date. Posted by rubicox | uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 17:02:05 Play online chess blindfold chessMessage: to play blindfold chess isnt that hard, i can play 3 boards at once(my rating drops dramaticly), but all you have to do is have a good memory, if you have that then youll play just as well blindfolded as over the board. Alos i was thinking of this movie that came out in 2001 and was called the Lucin Defense(pardon my spelling) which is a very good movie that rivals searching for bobby fischer, is this in any way related to Rubin? Posted by bluebabygirl | uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 23:50:28 Play online chess to rubicoxMessage: MR, FINE PLAYED BLINFOLD CHESS AT 10 SECONDS A MOVE SIMULTANIOUS TOO 4 GAMES AT ONCE !!!! CAN YOU DO THAT ??? OR SAY ITS NOT HARD . I THINK LATER ON HE INCREASED IT TO MORE GAMES !! BBG Posted by chessnovice | uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 23:55:27 Play online chess ...Message: His point wasn't that the time control was easy, but that playing chess blindfolded isn't as difficult as it would appear. Certainly 10 seconds per move would be difficult when playing 4 blindfolded games simultaneously - but the time control would be as difficult even without the blindfold. That's why Fine was a grandmaster, though... because he could do such amazing things with the chessboard. Posted by h86m | uskidscompute.com 5/22/2003 23:59:57 Play online chess record for playing blindfoldedMessage: And one know what the record is for playing blindfold chess? (with a respectable win to loss ratio, offcourse) Posted by baseline | uskidscompute.com 5/23/2003 04:43:45 Play online chess buddy2Message: I read it in Larry Evans column in Chess Life & Review sometime ago. Sorry I don't remember all the details just that he was a former NY State Champ in the 30's and that his best books have been long out of print. Posted by ranknfile | uskidscompute.com 5/23/2003 16:11:00 Play online chess George Kowtanowski...Message: played a 40-game blindfold simultaneous. I don't know if that's a record, nor do I know the win/loss ratio. The ratio was probably pretty good, I just don't know the specific numbers. Posted by atrifix | uskidscompute.com 5/23/2003 16:18:04 Play online chess Message: Koltanowski played a 34-board blindfold simul, scoring +24=10. Najdorf holds the record, I think, playing 45 boards at once, with a scsore of +39=4-2, but I think Koltanowski's opposition was stronger than Najdorf's. Posted by raimon | uskidscompute.com 5/23/2003 16:23:33 Play online chess Miguel Najdorf Message: played 45 simultaneous blindfold games in Brazil 1947 - won 39, lost 2 & drew 4. That was recognised as a world record - don't know if it still stands. Posted by raimon | uskidscompute.com 5/23/2003 16:25:36 Play online chess Sorry atrifixMessage: didn't see your post. Posted by h86m | uskidscompute.com 5/23/2003 20:24:35 Play online chess 45 games blindfolded..Message: OMG - some people really are so amazing.. Posted by bluebabygirl | uskidscompute.com 5/25/2003 00:15:48 Play online chess to h86mMessage: well there are some really amazing players on this SITE!!!!!!! However Im not one of them but you can look them up and several have threads on the forum !!! and they are very nice too !! yours bluebabygirl Posted by badjessie | uskidscompute.com 6/11/2003 20:14:30 Play online chess Message: fine was a average good player. he wrote better than he played . now how many touchdowns did he score last year. later |