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| Posted by tulkos uskidscompute.com 3/01/2003 09:23:07 Play online chess |  Subject: weird opening,Message: board #649054 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted by pawntificator uskidscompute.com 3/01/2003 09:39:05 Play online chess | Cyrano Message: is THE MAN! HEY CYRANO!!! CHALLENGE ME TO A GAME PLEASE!!! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted by gunnarsamuelsson uskidscompute.com 3/01/2003 12:28:36 Play online chess | well Message: Even though Nimzowitsch once said that he didnt know any refutation to the latvian its still an extemely nice thing to see Cyrano master this opening in this way. Its clearly one of the openings that still have mystic and beauty surrounding it, at least my my little knowledge. Guess I just wanted to be part of it in some odd way.. ;) ——— Hard Times for Chess — Early last week, Silvio Danailov, the manager of Veselin Topalov of Bulgaria, said in an interview that the M-Tel Masters would not be played this year because the main sponsor, after which the chess tournament is named, had pulled out. Instead, the company decided that it would get more for its money by sponsoring Topalov in his upcoming world chess championship match against Viswanathan Anand of India, the titleholder. Danailov said that he hoped that the chess tournament, which is usually held in May, would return next year. The world chess championship match begins on April 23 in Sofia, Bulgaria. M-Tel was first played in 2005, so it does not have a long tradition, but ... Posted by pawntificator | uskidscompute.com 3/01/2003 22:44:54 Play online chess wowMessage: Cyrano really did challenge me to a game! I have probably never played against such a powerful chess force in my life! Wish me luck, I'll need it! ——— In Chicago, a Chess Tournament That Turns Out Grandmasters — In 1993, Laszlo Nagy began organizing monthly chess tournaments in Budapest that give players a chance to earn the norms needed to gain the grandmaster and international master titles. Called the First Saturday tournaments, the events have attracted many of the world’s best chess players. Five years ago, a Chicago man created a similar tournament series, the North American Masters, to help American chess players. The man, Sevan A. Muradian, organized the first one in April 2005. The 25th tournament ended March 24, and two players, Mackenzie Molner and Siddharth Ravichandran, each earned the third norm needed to become international masters ... Posted by loreta | uskidscompute.com 3/01/2003 23:01:46 Play online chess Latvian gambitMessage: Just to share the one trap I performed about a week ago... I'm 'black' 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f5 3. Bd3(?) fxe4 4. Bxe4 d5 I assume the game had been done there already... :-) It was continued anyway: 5. Bxh7 Rxh7 and so and so... But it was mainly realization of advantage... Thanx for attention ——— The late Vasily Smyslov was the composed champion of the 1950s — Vasily Smyslov, who died last weekend at 89, was the world's best chess player for most of the 1950s but held the championship crown for only one year and was nicknamed 'The Winter King'. Smyslov understood chess more profoundly than his great rival Mikhail Botvinnik, against whom he contested three world championship matches with honours even. But Botvinnik was the better psychologist, had a shrewd knowledge of chess politics and made wily use of rules where 12-12 kept his title in 1954 and his 1957 defeat gave him a return series where he caught the flu-stricken Smyslov at the start. Smyslov took his major reverse phlegmatically. Chess for him was an art form allied to ... Posted by loreta | uskidscompute.com 3/01/2003 23:05:15 Play online chess loretaMessage: In addition, I'm new on this site, but anyway... you'd see a few Latvians g. in my games here :-) ——— A glittering career — The 7th World Chess Champion Vasily Vasilyevich Smyslov (1921-2010) has died at the age of 89 in Moscow. He played four times for the world title including three matches against Mikhail Botvinnik. He won the title in 1957 and was one of the finest players in world chess for over 40 years. He remained an immensely strong chess player even into his 60s and was only eliminated from the world championship cycle by a young Garry Kasparov in 1984. Smyslov learnt the moves from his father, who was a very strong chess player, at the age of six and was schooled initially in endgames which doubtless led to his acknowledged mastery of this phase of the game. He became ... Posted by loreta | uskidscompute.com 3/01/2003 23:13:21 Play online chess Message: I saw it was a discusion about LG at: gameknot.com/fmsg/chess/1697.shtml ——— European Chess Championship attracts huge field — The 11th European Chess Championship, which finished March 18 in Rijeka, Croatia, attracted a mammoth field of 408 chess players representing 41 European countries. A record 187 grandmasters competed. At stake were 23 places in the next World Cup, plus a prize fund of 120,000 Euros (about $163,000). Ian Nepomniachtchi, a 19-year-old Russian grandmaster ranked a mere 35th at the start despite his formidable 2656 rating, took first prize with an undefeated score of 9-2. Next were Baadur Jobava of Georgia and Artyom Timofeev of Russia, each 8 1/2 -2 1/2 . Veteran Pia Cramling of Sweden won the 158-player women's chess tournament, which ... Posted by loreta | uskidscompute.com 3/01/2003 23:27:57 Play online chess Correction:Message: My mistake. I wanted to show this message: gameknot.com/fmsg/chess/1831.shtml Posted by schachfruend | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 09:00:20 Play online chess Sorry Message: But the openng employed by Cyrano in the aforementioned game is The Dutch Defence. Posted by a_professional_idiot | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 09:35:18 Play online chess bothMessage: Nf3-f5 is a Dutch, but after e4-e5 it is a latvian gambit Posted by schachfruend | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 09:54:50 Play online chess CyranoMessage: responded with e5 to whites e4 to break up the center and to dislodge whites misplaced knight. Still makes it a Dutch defence. Latvian?/Dutch,? Cyrano is still a force to be reckoned with! Posted by t0ned0g | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 10:58:02 Play online chess not a dutch....Message: main line Latvian with exf5.....In no way shape or form is it a Dutch anymore! Posted by schachfruend | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 11:21:15 Play online chess Question?Message: Does it matter what opening? What matters is that white was out played to the point of resignation. What matters is that the player with the black pieces was less concerned with opening theory and more concerned with playing chess!! Posted by t0ned0g | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 11:33:20 Play online chess woah.....Message: Please,I meant no harm....just trying to help! Sorry! I won't open my mouth ever again! Posted by honololou | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 11:41:03 Play online chess silly me…Message: I thought opening theory was part of playing chess. Thanks for enlightening us all, shachfreund. Posted by schachfruend | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 11:51:40 Play online chess Opening Theory? Message: Whose opening theory and what opening theory? Everyone these days is so concerned with what GM's are doing and how they play? Most chess play these days is based on someone that has played before you and I. If chess is to survive and progress we as a collective should use our brains to uplift our games past what opening theory prescribes. Just because Kasparov or Kramnik play a certain move does not lend credence to this particular line of play, ahem, they still lose don't they!!!! Posted by aggropolis | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 12:00:17 Play online chess SchachfreundMessage: You started correcting players which opening it was and when you were wrong you got aggressive and started a discussion about players not focusing on chess instead. There is no logic in that. Posted by honololou | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 12:04:47 Play online chess unfortunately, shachfreund…Message: not everyone is blessed with your natural chess ability. Personally, I find studying master games and opening theory very helpful to my understanding of the game. Much of it, I admit, goes over my head, but that does not prevent me from trying to improve my chess the only way I know how, by playing and studying. Posted by schachfruend | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 12:25:21 Play online chess aggropolis first then honololuMessage: aggropolis, Firstly, the defence discussed in the prescribed game is and will be immemorial a Dutch Defence. Secondly does it matter which defence we associate a name? The player with the black pieces was unconcerned with this limitation and played the appropriate moves to take the advantage, and that is the crux of that discussion. honololu. I love your wit! I wish I was born with a great and wonderful chessic gift I would not be working so hard at the paltry games that I extend myself to play. I work extremely hard at every game and at 24 games have over extended my abilites to the enth degree. My Father taught me this game after I pestered him relentlessly. I now know that I am far from naturally gifted! What chess gift I do have is patience and determination coupled with the time to realize both. Secondly, age brings about a certain cynicism which is really ego and knowledge. I would certainly not be where I am today if I didn't question the status quo. Posted by ordinary_man | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 12:52:48 Play online chess A hard timne admitting when you are wrongMessage: The opening is clearly a latvian gambit by transposition on move 2, any opening encyclopedia in the world would recognize the position as a latvian gambit position an dnot a dutch defense regardless of which names are used. white pawn on e4, white knight on f3, black pawn on e5 and f5 on move #2 is NOT A DUTCH DEFENSE. and, YES, IT IS IMPORTANT, because if tulkos recognized this opening, he could have grabbed an opening book, and played 3.Nxe5! which grabs the gambit panw and gives almost no compensation to black, it is widely known that this gambit is extremely dubious for black, and is virtually never seen at the professional level. of course given the wide gap between the tow opponent's playing levels in this game, Cyrano probably would have won anyway.....but THIS IS THE DUBIOUS OPENING KNOWN AS THE LATVIAN GAMBIT AND YES IT IS IMPORTANT WHICH OPENING YOU PLAY...TRY PLAYING 1.E4 G5 2.D4 F3 AS BLACK AND SEE WHERE IT GETS YOU!!! Posted by a_professional_idiot | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 13:02:09 Play online chess SchachfreundMessage: Why is opening theory important to know? Because the first few moves of any game have been mulled over for centuries and the best moves have been decided upon. It is because of opening theory that move orders such as e4-e5 Nf3-f6, or e4-f5 have been deemed useless and stupid. Posted by aggropolis | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 13:07:11 Play online chess Well SchachfreundMessage: Well ordinary_man wrote it. Dutch Defence is 1. d4 f5 and not 1. Nf3 f5, he also pointed out that it transposes to Latvian Gambit at move 2, not ever being Dutch. Ordinary_man. There are quite a few players on professional level who have played Latvian and I think black will get some compensation in form of initiative or the pawn back. Posted by ordinary_man | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 13:10:40 Play online chess very true...Message: aggropolis , you are right I exaggerated a bit about how bad the LAtvian is, but it is bad! However, I admit when I am wrong and I back down that black gets no compensation....a strong player would be able to get the intiative or at least get a pawn back. I stand corrected. :) Posted by t0ned0g | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 13:30:00 Play online chess thanks boys....Message: nicely said boys.....she is surprising angry and aggressive for an aged person such as herself....I'm less aggressive and I'm a testerone filled 16 year old! Posted by bishop_vlad | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 13:38:13 Play online chess guys and gals: Message: can't we all just get along? Posted by schachfruend | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 14:20:06 Play online chess She?Message: I am delighted that you got my gender correct!! You are allowed to call me Mimi or Schachfruend. I thought it was mute whether this opening is a Latvian by transposition or a Dutch Defence? What was being said is Black was the superior exponent of the chess game. I meant not to be aggresive or a fuss budget but to make a logical point that it matters not the opening name but the user of the pieces. So don't diss me on chess, because despite my age I still have game, haha!!! Thanks everyone this was fun!! Posted by t0ned0g | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 14:34:03 Play online chess ??Message: Wow are you weird, you have a good sense of humor though......Did you paste a different head on that body or is that a bad photo depth? Posted by honololou | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 15:27:23 Play online chess t0ned0g…Message: With all due respect, let's try to keep the discussion on chess and not get personal. Posted by tulkos | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 16:15:32 Play online chess Yes please t0nedog.Message: does anyone have any comments on the game beyond that 3.Nxe5 was the normal form of procedure? Posted by t0ned0g | uskidscompute.com 3/02/2003 17:48:20 Play online chess sorry boys....Message: I like 3.Bc4 against the Latvian, where 3..fe Ne5 gives white the initiative! Posted by caldazar | uskidscompute.com 3/04/2003 03:30:12 Play online chess Message: While 3. Nxe5 is considered best according to theory, your choice of 3. exf5 is not at all bad. The idea then is to immediately attempt to exploit Black's weakened kingside using open lines. A sample try is: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f5 (to use a more standard move order) 3. exf5 e4 4. Ne5 Nf6 5. Be2 (intending Bh5+ to upset Black's king; in a superficial way, similar to a plan that can be adopted by Black against the King's Gambit) Be7 (5... Bc5 is probably also worth considering) 6. Bh5+ Kf8 7. d4 with a fighting game ahead. Posted by tulkos | uskidscompute.com 3/04/2003 10:23:12 Play online chess I see.Message: Posted by tulkos | uskidscompute.com 3/04/2003 10:23:13 Play online chess I see.Message: |