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Posted by premium_steve uskidscompute.com 2/09/2003 13:26:44 Play online chess	Subject: Latvian Gambit Message: I was wondering what black's best continuation is after the following set of moves: 1.e4,e5 2.Nf3,f5 3.exf5 thanks....
Posted by mikhail_tal uskidscompute.com 2/09/2003 15:05:12 Play online chess	Latvian Gambit Message: 3...e4 I was white against this and got CRUSHED!!
Posted by a_professional_idiot uskidscompute.com 2/09/2003 15:18:32 Play online chess	3exf5 Message: I am almost sure that that is wrong. The only analyzed games I of that I have seen involved either 3.d3 or 3.Nxe5. I actually have a BIG BOOK OF UNORTHODOX OPENINGS somewhere, if only I could find it. ——— Carlsen Sprints Ahead at King's Tournament — With a little good fortune, Magnus Carlsen is on a tear. Carlsen, the top seed, won his third game in a row at the King’s Chess Tournament in Romania on Sunday. This time, his victim was Ruslan Ponomariov of Ukraine, who was winning for most of the game. But then he blundered (23 Rf2? instead of 23 Kh1) allowing Carlsen to turn the tables. He was also a bit fortunate in Round 5, on Saturday, when he beat Liviu-Dieter Nisipeanu of Romania. In that game, Nisipeanu had a small advantage, but Carlsen employed a nice feint and Nisipeanu took the bait (17 Qd5, he should have played 17 Nd5), after which his position was very difficult. Carlsen, a Norwegian, now has 4.5 points and ...
Posted by premium_steve uskidscompute.com 2/09/2003 15:25:29 Play online chess	sure! Message: e4 looks like the right kind of move ——— A Player Steps Up His Game and Wins the National Open — Chess players often talk of the creative aspect of chess — the role of imagination in conceiving strategies. Sometimes the desire to execute an original plan can overwhelm even the desire to win. Mikhail Tal, a former world chess champion, wrote in his autobiography that he had lost more than a few games because he had chosen a “beautiful” combination, only to discover that he had miscalculated. To borrow a baseball metaphor, a grand slam for a chess player would be to play brilliantly, win the game and defeat a strong opponent when there is a lot riding on the outcome. That is what Timur Gareev of Uzbekistan did in the final round of the National Open in Las Vegas last Sunday. He trailed ...
Posted by zdrak uskidscompute.com 2/09/2003 15:33:58 Play online chess	Message: No, 3.exf5 isn't wrong, it's a playable move, just as the other above-mentioned options. And yes, 3...e4 is the reply for black. Here's a nice sample game: Nedela (2379) - Zvara (2356), 1999 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f5 3. exf5 e4 4. Qe2 Qe7 5. Nd4 c5 6. Nb5 d5 7. N1c3 Nf6 8. g4 h6 9. d3 a6 10. dxe4 dxe4 11. Bf4 axb5 12. Nxb5 Na6 13. Nd6+ Qxd6 14. Bxd6 Bxd6 15. Rd1 Be5 16. Qb5+ Ke7 white is much better, and he eventually won (1-0, 34 moves) ——— Timur Gareyev wins US National Open — Timur Gareyev, an Uzbek chess grandmaster who attends the University of Texas in Brownsville, won the US National Open last weekend in Las Vegas. Gareyev yielded a first-round draw to IM Joe Bradford of Texas but won his next five games. He was particularly tough on Southern Californians, inflicting defeats on IM Andranik Matikozyan and, in the final round, GM Varuzhan Akobian. Tied for second at 5-1 were Akobian and GMs Arthur Kogan (Israel), Alex Lenderman (New York) and Alejandro Ramirez (Costa Rica). Matikozyan tied for sixth at 41/2-11/2. There were 19 GMs in the 105-player Open section. Two Southern Californians, Danyul Lawrence and 12-year-old Michael W. Brown, shared ...
Posted by caldazar uskidscompute.com 2/09/2003 23:47:42 Play online chess	Message: You can also play 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f5 3. exf5 e4 as a King's Gambit Accepted in reverse with something like 4. Ne5 Nf6 5. Be2, intending Bh5+ with a good game for White. ——— Carlsen and Radjabov Take the Lead of the Kings Chess Tournament — Three decisive games in Round 4 of the 4th Kings Chess Tournament in Romania rejiggered the standings. Liviu-Dieter Nisipeanu of Romania and Boris Gelfand of Israel, the co-leaders after Round 3, both lost, while Teimour Radjabov of Azerbaijan won his second game in a row and Magnus Carlsen of Norway won his first. They now lead with 2.5 points, a half point ahead of Nisipeanu, Gelfand and Ruslan Ponomariov of Ukraine. Wang Yue of China, the other competitor, sits alone in last place with one point. Two of Thursday’s games began with surprising chess opening choices. Nisipeanu, who was Black against Ponomariov, chose the Blumenfeld Counter Gambit, a chess opening that ...
Posted by bigmick uskidscompute.com 2/10/2003 02:03:46 Play online chess	I've created Message: An opening report from a 687,000 game database for you to study. It can be found at: www.beastie.co.uk/chess/reports/latvian_gambit_full_report.html</a> My apologies about the missing images, but for some reason they failed to generate. -- bigmick ——— Bobby Fischer’s Body Ordered to Be Exhumed — Wednesday, Iceland’s Supreme Court ordered that the body of Bobby Fischer, the former chess champion, be disinterred to determine if he is the father of Jinky Young, a 9-year-old Philippines girl, according to a report by Agence France-Presse. Fischer died in January 2008 and was buried in Iceland, his adopted home, in the cemetery of Laugardaelir Church. Since his death, there has been an ongoing fight over his estate involving competing claims by Marilyn Young, Jinky’s mother; Miyoko Watai, the head of the Japanese Chess Association, who said ...
Posted by soikins uskidscompute.com 2/10/2003 03:14:55 Play online chess	Hello! Message: If U are really interested, I'll look at original Behtins analysis on this one. I don't play Latvian Gambit myself, but as I'm from Latvia, I know some strong experts who use it quite often, so I can ask them too.
Posted by a_professional_idiot uskidscompute.com 2/10/2003 16:23:25 Play online chess	3. Nxe5 Message: Just picked up a whole wad of LG games and all white wins were with 3.Nxe5
Posted by soikins uskidscompute.com 2/11/2003 06:44:01 Play online chess	Nxe5 is the best Message: after exf comes e4. Black can take center with d5 (Behtins (author of the gambit) prefered d6 with later d5) and c6. Black is not afraid of h5 check and moves his king to e7. Whites attack with Nc3-Nd5-Nf7 doesn't seem too impresive. They can, of course, take the rook, but the knight is also doomed. It is a sharp variation, that I wouldn't play by nither side. Anyway, Nxe5 is considered to be the best for white.
Posted by cheesemuffin uskidscompute.com 2/12/2003 03:00:22 Play online chess	3. Bc4 Message: is interesting
Posted by desertfox uskidscompute.com 2/15/2003 01:09:47 Play online chess	Latvian Gambit Message: There is a world championship in which players play the Latvian Gambit both with white and with black. The man behind the idea is John Elburg from Holland. We played a correspondence game in which I was white and he played the Latvian as black. It ended in a draw. It is a risky gambit. You better play it only against those who are not strong players. You could contact John Elburg for information about the Latvian. His e-mail address is: Elburg@consunet.nl. Those of you who know French can go to your search engine and write Gambit Letton, you will get part 1 and part 2 of an interesting article with the Latvian Gambit. From my personal experience, I always got a good game playing the Latvian with black, but later in the game, lost my draw+ position, and lost the game. I decided to abandon that gambit as unsound for black. I prefer to have the white pieces. Desertfox
Posted by werwolf uskidscompute.com 3/18/2003 08:46:33 Play online chess	Nimzovich's line is the best ! Message: The best variant against the Latvian Gambit is following line 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3.Nxe5 Qf6 4.d4 d6 5.Nc4 Qf6 6.Ne3! all moves before was obligatory for black (white could chose) and now black has 2 chances 6...c67.Bc4! d5 8.Bb3 with following c4 and better game for white or 6...Nc6 7.c3! Other strong line for white is 6.Be2! with positional atvantage for white.
Posted by gm_stefan uskidscompute.com 4/28/2003 17:54:54 Play online chess	latvian gambit Message: ---> "Message: You can also play 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f5 3. exf5 e4 as a King's Gambit Accepted in reverse with something like 4. Ne5 Nf6 5. Be2, intending Bh5+ with a good game for White. " 5. Be2 d5 ! 6. Bh5+ Bh5+ is ok ( but after Ke7, Nf7 Qe8, Nxh8 Qxh5, Qxh5 Sxh5, g4 Sf6... it is a better position for black ) Something like 6. ... Ke7 7. d3 is a strong move against the black position (following ... Bxf5 8. Bg5... ) I think the best way against the latvian gambit is d4 ! or even Lc4...
Posted by tulkos uskidscompute.com 4/28/2003 18:47:30 Play online chess	here is another thread on this subject, Message: gameknot.com/fmsg/chess/1898.shtml
Posted by nimzoredivivus uskidscompute.com 4/28/2003 20:58:09 Play online chess	I play the Latvian alot Message: and 3 ef is an okay move for white but conservative. Black's most common replies are e4 or d6, although he has tried about everything. I recommend playing the Latvian but it is risky. I did not have a loss in about a dozen games until keiserpaul did me the honor. Still I like it alot.
Posted by loreta uskidscompute.com 4/28/2003 22:47:17 Play online chess	And another also... Message: Near to that topic is also: gameknot.com/fmsg/chess/1928.shtml
Posted by loreta uskidscompute.com 4/28/2003 22:53:49 Play online chess	One more line... Message: To werwolf: What do you think about position when White takes a e-pawn: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3.Nxe5 Qf6 4.d4 d6 5.Nc4 Qf6 6.Ne3! c6 7. Nxe4? I mean a position after 7. ... d5 8.Ng5 Qf6 9. Nf3...
Posted by werwolf uskidscompute.com 4/29/2003 00:40:11 Play online chess	loreta Message: 7.NXe4 is OxE4 Queen is standing on g6.
Posted by werwolf uskidscompute.com 4/29/2003 00:42:38 Play online chess	gm_stefan Message: on 5.Be2 black can play d6 6.Bh5+ Ke7 7Nf7 Qe8 8. Nxh8 Qxh5 is playable for black. Other line is 5...Bez which is playable too.
Posted by loreta uskidscompute.com 4/29/2003 01:29:25 Play online chess	Again wrong... Message: Uf... werwolf - You made mistake in line (5. ...Qf6 is impossible) and I simply copied it thinking about different line (without d4). My question was about: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3. Nxe5 Qf6 4. Nc4 fxe4 5.Ne3! c6 6. Nxe4? I mean a position after 6. ... d5 7.Ng5 Qf6 8. Nf3...
Posted by werwolf uskidscompute.com 4/29/2003 08:54:19 Play online chess	So Message: 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 f5 3.Nxe5 Qf6 4.Nc4 fxe4 you apparetly mean't 5.Nc3 (not Ne3hor you're written) but then the best move is Qf7!
Posted by loreta uskidscompute.com 4/29/2003 09:20:16 Play online chess	yep again Message: I skipped out all move... :-( 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3. Nxe5 Qf6 4. Nc4 fxe4 5. Nc3 Qf7 6.Ne3! c6 7. Nxe4? I mean a position after 7. ... d5 8.Ng5 Qf6 9. Nf3...
Posted by gm_stefan uskidscompute.com 4/29/2003 14:18:00 Play online chess	werwolf Message: "Message: on 5.Be2 black can play d6 6.Bh5+ Ke7 7Nf7 Qe8 8. Nxh8 Qxh5 is playable for black. Other line is 5...Bez which is playable too. " 5. ... d6 is not as good as d5 ! because you loose a move against the move d5 after Sf7 Ke7 Sxh8 .... it's theory ! ;-) I have enough books about it ;-p p.s. werwolf are you german ??
Posted by werwolf uskidscompute.com 4/30/2003 00:40:13 Play online chess	loreta Message: In that positoon black has a sufficient compensation for the pawn.
Posted by loreta uskidscompute.com 4/30/2003 01:33:52 Play online chess	Just state ... :-( Message: But, statistically (as some likes), White wins more of then ;-) As common, I agree with werwolf about LG evaluation (long obligatory lines for black and so) but ... ... to continue on statistical note - this year I played about 50 chess games and about 10 of them were LG. No any loose at all (all been won)... Anyway, I don't risk with it against strong players... ;-) . And if to touch memory records... I've once played LG against G.Kasparow :-)
Posted by werwolf uskidscompute.com 5/01/2003 02:34:04 Play online chess	gm_stefan Message: on 5....d5 6.Bh5+ Ke7 7.d3! gives white a large advatnage
Posted by mercy uskidscompute.com 5/04/2003 06:09:47 Play online chess	Risky but best in OTB Message: I have played the Latvian Gambit for years in OTB play. My best friend has played even longer. I would reccomend it to anyone who considers themselves a risk taker, attacker, tactician, or just plain aggressive. I have had the hardest times against 3.exf in OTB. I do not believe I have faced that yet here on GK. -Doris
Posted by werwolf uskidscompute.com 5/04/2003 23:10:42 Play online chess	The main problem Message: The main problem of the Latvian gambit is : If white knows theory then they are able to make safe position with slightly positional advatnage. I' can burn down everyone who will play that opening against me in GK.
Posted by loreta uskidscompute.com 5/05/2003 01:05:30 Play online chess	:-) Message: It could be, it could ... :-) werforf wrote:" I can burn down everyone who will play that opening against me in GK"
Posted by mercy uskidscompute.com 5/05/2003 17:54:37 Play online chess	Oh, OK Message: That's funny, so if Cyrano , Cairo , or Felixmizsta played the Latvian against you, you can beat them? 10 out of 10 games? Well, I am not in the top 10 like these guys, but I'm willing to play the Latvian against you. I'm not saying I will beat you, but I sure will try. So, let me know if your willing to accept the challenge. I hope you stand behind your statement. Doris
Posted by werwolf uskidscompute.com 5/06/2003 00:52:11 Play online chess	Not in all games but in most Message: I' defeat them not in all games but in most and i'wont lose anyone. OK mercy - when i'll got free games then i'll challenge you
Posted by werwolf uskidscompute.com 5/06/2003 00:52:15 Play online chess	Not in all games but in most Message: I' defeat them not in all games but in most and i'wont lose anyone. OK mercy - when i'll got free games then i'll challenge you
Posted by mercy uskidscompute.com 5/06/2003 05:15:15 Play online chess	Okie Dokey Message: Yes, Thank you. When you are ready, please send me a challenge. I love playing the Latvian Gambit. Despite me not agreeing with your statement that you will not lose to anyone... I must say that I agree with what you said in an earlier post... "If White knows theory then they are able to make safe position with slightly positional advantage". -werwolf I agree, that is why I do not play it too often in internet chess where white does not need to know theory, he has all the time in the world to read and study whatever book he wants about the gambit, avoiding all the "bad" moves and choosing all the "right" moves. ;-Doris
Posted by loreta uskidscompute.com 5/06/2003 05:22:58 Play online chess	Blades of razor Message: I entered to GK playing 5 LGs (in last games, sadly, i prefered another openings). I could share my opinion about LG: I feel like going on blades of razor. Anyway, I'd suggest my opponent feels the same :-) I played on GK 3 games against King gambit - and I could say but I hadn't the similar feeling.