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| Posted by gestalt uskidscompute.com 2/07/2003 12:31:43 play online chess |  Subject: Kasporov V the WorldMessage: I,ve just read that there was a Kasporov versus the world match last year. Where people could vote on moves for 'the World' does anyone know what the outcome was. Did we kick his a**? Please tell me we did (I use 'we' loosely as I wasn't aware of the event). If we didn't WHY NOT??? |
| Posted by tovmauzer uskidscompute.com 2/07/2003 12:55:44 play online chess | Actually match took place earlier... Message: ~ 1999, i think. And Kasparov won it:) |
| Posted by tovmauzer uskidscompute.com 2/07/2003 12:56:52 play online chess | Why? Message: Probably because plays better chess...:) |
| Posted by bartlebie uskidscompute.com 2/07/2003 13:16:45 play online chess | Message: I guess he won, because he managed to persuade some ten thousand people of voting for the wrong moves. :) |
| Posted by atrifix uskidscompute.com 2/07/2003 13:30:30 play online chess | Message: There was a major controversy with Irinia Krush losing access to MSN and being unable to publish her analysis. Anyway, the World blundered in a drawn ending (a move that had been analyzed a week in advance!) and lost quickly. |
| Posted by gestalt uskidscompute.com 2/07/2003 14:55:29 play online chess | Losing access to MSN!! Message: Sounds like a very lame excuse to me. Arent these people supposed to have IQ's of about a zillion. Why didnt she pop down to her local internet cafe and publishe her moves. Infact I've gone and checked this match up on the web and I smell a rat! There were 4 so called analysts (Irina Krush, Elisabeth Pähtz, Florin Felecan, Etienne Bacrot) all teenagers and two of them Kasparov protogees. Is this the best the 'world' could come up with? I demand a rematch! |
| Posted by atrifix uskidscompute.com 2/08/2003 13:01:07 play online chess | Message: The match was being played using MSN, so you can't just pop down to your local web cafe and log into MSN :) |
| Posted by atrifix uskidscompute.com 2/08/2003 13:03:08 play online chess | And Message: the official 'World' analysts were selected as youthful prodigies on purpose--a few more GMs unofficially analyzed the match, including Kaidanov and Benko, I believe. |
| Posted by caldazar uskidscompute.com 2/08/2003 13:23:52 play online chess | Message: The match was open to anyone who had web access... it was handled through Microsoft's Internet Gaming Zone, which is free to the general public. Members from the "Russian Chess School" were also providing some analysis for the World Team, including Khalifman. |
| Posted by gestalt uskidscompute.com 2/08/2003 19:56:50 play online chess | Russian Chess School!!! Message: Fat lot of good that did! And atrifix, maybe I'm a bit slow, but why can't you walk down to your local web cafe and use MSN? I still think kasparov got off lightly. |
| Posted by mettlesome uskidscompute.com 2/08/2003 23:13:50 play online chess | Well... Message: Think about it.... It's kind of like politics.....just because the thousands of (relatively uninformed) people vote for something that doesn't mean that they individually become a thousand times smarter... Maybe someone can find the quote, but I seem to think that democracy was once called "governing by average" Does anyone really think GP should have been beaten by an average player (I can only imagine how frustrating it would have been for 'big boy ' or 'big girl' grandmasters to invest themselves in analysing the game and making recommendatioins only to have people choosing worse moves.....(although if it really was a drawn endgame I guess that didn't really happen...) Mettlesome |
| Posted by gestalt uskidscompute.com 2/09/2003 08:07:10 play online chess | Well Message: I was assuming that the 'world' team included the combined skills of all the other GM's. But thinking about it they probably didn't have much to do with it. I do think that a team comprising other top players should be able to overcome the Great One! |
| Posted by zdrak uskidscompute.com 2/09/2003 08:23:15 play online chess | Message: According to Kasparov, he spent over 150 hours of analisys on this game. That's almost 3 hours per move. I don't think anyone from the World team showed such dedication. Except from Irina Krush, who showed true dedication, the team comprised of a lot of people who merely "looked at the game from time to time". And in this case, quality doesn't breed quantity. A million "quick glances at the position" put together couldn't measure up to world's #1 player, thinking 3 hours per move. Yes, if Irina's suggestion on that 58th move would have reached the voters on time, World would have good drawing chances, but I still liked Kasparov position better in this case. But no matter how you look at it, a fascinating game! |
| Posted by zdrak uskidscompute.com 2/09/2003 08:24:17 play online chess | Message: Oops, sorry, should have been the other way around: "quantity doesn't breed quality" :-) |
| Posted by a_professional_idiot uskidscompute.com 2/09/2003 12:14:14 play online chess | drawn position? Message: I read up on the game, and the supposed move that would have been suggested had already been well analyzed by Kasparov and he still had a win. |
| Posted by atrifix uskidscompute.com 2/09/2003 17:44:30 play online chess | MSN Message: was hosting the match. Now, it's not like just Irina Krush just lost internet access or something, it'd be more like trying to login to gameknot and finding your account no longer exists. So that day there was no analysis next to Krush's name (Krush had kind of become the leader for the match--the other 3 analysts had sort of given up). Now, as you can imagine, this sort of thing doesn't happen very often, so when it does people are not pleased. Everyone understands that MSN can have problems like any other network, but perhaps they should do a little more to accomodate their top analyst (their only analyst, really) in a critical chess match. |
| Posted by desertfox uskidscompute.com 2/09/2003 23:48:20 play online chess | MSN zone Message: Kasparov used a program to analyze his games. I used to play a lot in msn zone. Now I get a curious error message "Your browser does not enable cookies". Bullshit! They can't repair such a bug for 3 months? I left that site and began playing here at gameknot. Much better than MSN, where rules such as "3 repetition draw" or "not enough material to win" are not respected. I had people continuing games against me with only kings on the board just because they had a few more seconds on their blitz watches. Not to mention the famous "draw offering" bug. Bill Gates bought the site more than a year ago. He is poor you know, can't afford bettering it. |
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