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| Posted by triangulator uskidscompute.com 1/11/2003 15:12:40 play online chess |  Subject: a suggestion for otb tourneysMessage: right now in OK there are 6 good kid chess players, we are all at least a 1700+ in skill and we have cause so much damage in tourneys ( takeing over 1,000 between us) and placeing pretty high above a lot of adults, most adults( even experts and masters!!) hate and are scared to play us( my friend jake came really close to beating a master- he won a R off the guy but fell for a mate trap 20 moves later). Well 2 imortant brothers-1 an expert- 1 a 1750 player- have suggested that there be ADULT tourneys - you have to be 21 years old to join, I thought this was really funny, any thoughts on kids being allowed into adult tourneys? |
| Posted by mlazar uskidscompute.com 1/11/2003 20:48:23 play online chess | if you Message: pay the entry fee you should be allowed in and eligible for any prizes |
| Posted by brobishkin uskidscompute.com 1/12/2003 01:46:01 play online chess | Chess clubs... Message: The problem with playing kids is that when an adult loses, it makes him look worse than if he had lost to an adult... But I personally like playing kids... They are our future and encouragement can never be bad... I agree with Lazar "if they pay the entry fee, they should be able to play"... But there will always those (adults) who just cant stand the thought of looking bad and will try to eliminate that from happening... They miss a point Bobby Fischer once said "play the board, not the player"... But one must ask themselves this question... What would happen to the Lakers if they lost to some High School Basketball team?... They will lose face... But it will never happen because they will never play a High School team due to the fact, they have nothing to gain from the win, and everything to lose from defeat... Bro... |
| Posted by atrifix uskidscompute.com 1/12/2003 07:50:56 play online chess | Message: Fischer said "I don't believe in psychology, I believe in good moves" but this was deceptive--Fischer's games and annotations, IMO, show that he was as aware of psychology as any of the best. If adults don't like playing kids, then they should just improve to the point where they don't have to play them anymore (super-GM level). A lot of people also don't like playing women, but go figure. I personally enjoy playing both kids and women, especially because I can usually generalize about kids' playing styles since they've had limited experience. And I doubt anyone really wants to see a Lakers-high school game :) |
| Posted by brobishkin uskidscompute.com 1/12/2003 19:13:16 play online chess | Artifix... Message: It as strictly an example about the Lakers and the way it would effect them if they actually played... They would have nothing to win in such a game and everything to lose... So why play... Or did the example go right over your head?... |
| Posted by thumper uskidscompute.com 1/12/2003 20:35:16 play online chess | Brobishkin Message: I understand the analogy but it doesn't quite fit. The mis-match is too great. If a kid has an OTB rating of 1850 and is playing an adult with an OTB rating of 1847 it's an even match. I've played a couple kids here at GK and had a great time. I see a couple of 'them' have quite a bit higher ratings than I have. I assume they earned it with their skill. Cool. One thing I keep in mind if I'm playing a kid and he's winning is....I can still beat you up you little twerp! ;-) |
| Posted by triangulator uskidscompute.com 1/13/2003 08:59:35 play online chess | no Message: acually we are all b players, an we are kiling these 1800s to 2150s, players of our rating rarley are able to beat us |
| Posted by druleeparsec uskidscompute.com 1/13/2003 13:42:24 play online chess | Message: If you paid the tournament fee and are a USCF member then you should be allowed to play. We have a kid who's about 15 years old who regularly plays in our Wednesday evening tournaments. He'w not as good as the guys you talk about but who cares? Then again, the average OTB rating at our club is about 1800 so we have a VERY strong club. Maybe it makes a difference being exposed to so many very strong players. |
| Posted by triangulator uskidscompute.com 1/13/2003 14:41:28 play online chess | that doesn't matter Message: most of us are comming up with 200+ upset points out of 4 rounds every tourney, he could do this: make a tourney without kids, we do scholastic tourneys, and adults aren't allowed in is the point he is makeing |
| Posted by nottop uskidscompute.com 1/13/2003 16:04:43 play online chess | Once started a chessclub Message: I once started a chessclub in my home town. we had a great turnout -very unexpected - and a Church donated space for us to play. The strongest two players turned out to be - 1: An older postal player who had not played otb chess but had reached the Golden Knights finals (that is a US event - reaching the finals is pretty good). 2: An extremely talented young player who went to a school in a neighboring town. These two were about equal in strength and far ahead of everybody else. When the two of them played, if they could reach an endgame, the older player almost always won. It was funny watching the young player trying to draw an endgame a clear pawn ahead. But, as often as not, the older player got killed in the middlegame. So they were about equal. The funny thing was - I noticed - that as time went by - The postal player got quite a lot stronger in defending tactical middlegames. The younger player learned a lot about how to play endgames. So I think there is no problem with younger and older players battling against each other. I think it makes all of us stronger. So think again before excluding an age group. |
| Posted by pawnstar uskidscompute.com 1/14/2003 04:08:09 play online chess | ;) Message: were you that older player nottop? |
| Posted by peppe_l uskidscompute.com 1/14/2003 06:39:45 play online chess | IMO Message: If young players know the rules and can act well enough to play OTB, by all means let them! Chess is a great hobby for youngsters and playing vs more experienced players teaches them both chess and good manners. If someone doesnt like to play vs youngsters (or women, foreigners, weaker opponents etc) that hardly justifies excluding anyone from tournaments. |
| Posted by r_lawrence uskidscompute.com 1/15/2003 07:46:49 play online chess | Message: I'm willing to bet a lot of those upsets you guys are getting are from a complete lack of respect. Hah! This kid is gonna beat me? Overconfidence loses games. Anyway, the word will be out soon guys, so keep up the practice! |
| Posted by triangulator uskidscompute.com 1/15/2003 08:16:24 play online chess | word is out Message: they know what we do, who we study with, and they are scared of us |
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