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| Posted by peppe_l uskidscompute.com 9/02/2002 11:22:27 |  Subject: Test your analysis!Message: Hello everyone! Heres a proposal for everyone at GK: Recently I saw IM Jeremy Silman employing an interesting test - he gave amateur players a game to analyze, giving his own analysis only after a certain period of time. This gave ppl a good chance to see the difference between IM and amateur players. This inspired me to try a somewhat similar test - the difference obviously is that Im an amateur player myself (not even a good one), so instead of analyzing a game myself, I will be using two books - 1) A book where one of the players annotates the game, giving his thoughts and analysis about the moves 2) A book by a strong GM, explaining the moves in the way that is especially useful for players who want instructive, down-to-earth explanations instead of zillions of variations. So, my proposal is... 1) Analyze the game. Do it yourself, no help from others and pls pls pls NO computer assistance. If someone has posted his analysis about the game here, dont read it before you have finished your own :) Pls use ! !! ? ?? !? ?! to give your verdict about the moves played, but preferably focus on verbal comments about strategic plans, positional factors and game in general. Not to forget tactics of course :) Oh and pls, if you know this game or who were the players, pls dont tell to others, ok? :) 2) Post your analysis here. Format is not important and style is free. And pls let me point out you DONT have to be a chess expert to participate - vice versa! 3) After you have posted your analysis, you can discuss about the game with others who have also finished with their analysis. In this way you can compare ideas and see the difference between analysis of different players etc. 4) After some time (how long I let ppl here to decide) I will post an analysis about the game, combining the annotations of two GMs. Then you can see the difference between GM analysis and yours! For example...were your verdicts about the moves correct? Were the plans of both players the same ones you thought? Etc! So, pls give me some feedback, does this sound like a decent idea to you ppl? The floor is open and this thread awaits for first analysis! Yours sincerely Peppe Oh, almost forgot, the game...heheh 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Bf5 5.Ng3 Bg6 6.Nf3 Nd7 7.Bd3 e6 8.0-0 Ngf6 9.c4 Bd6 10.b3 0-0 11.Bb2 Qc7 12.Bxg6 hxg6 13.Qe2 Rfe8 14.Ne4 Nxe4 15.Qxe4 Be7 16.Rad1 Rad8 17.Rfe1 Qa5 18.a3 Qf5 19.Qe2 g5 20.h3 g4 21.hxg4 Qxg4 22.d5 cxd5 23.cxd5 e5 24.d6 Bf6 25.Nd2 Qxe2 26.Rxe2 Rc8 27.Ne4 Bd8 28.g4 f6 29.Kg2 Kf7 30.Rc1 Bb6 31.Rec2 Rxc2 32.Rxc2 Ke6 33.a4 a5 34.Ba3 Rb8 35.Rc4 Bd4 36.f4 g6 37.Ng3 exf4 38.Rxd4 fxg3 39.Kxg3 Rc8 40.Rd3 g5 41.Bb2 b6 42.Bd4 Rc6 43.Bc3 Rc5 44.Kg2 Rc8 45.Kg3 Ne5 46.Bxe5 fxe5 47.b4 e4 48.Rd4 Ke5 49.Rd1 axb4 50.Rb1 Rc3+ 51.Kf2 Rd3 52.d7 Rxd7 53.Rxb4 Rd6 54.Ke3 Rd3+ 55.Ke2 Ra3 0-1 |
| Posted by taoistlunatic uskidscompute.com 9/02/2002 12:40:08 | this game is mostly beyond me.... Message: Most of the moves were either very obvious, or very subtle and complex, very hard for me to understand. But I will give my simple analysis.. 22.d5?? This was probably not calculated correctly by the white player, it just ends up giving him a weak, isolated pawn which decides the game. After going over the game, I feel that this move is the most important move of the game, and is why white lost. 23....e5! black cashs in on white's weak d-pawn by letting the weak pawn become passed in the hopes of winning it later. 28.g4! a simple but strong move which prevents black from chasing away the knight with ...f5. 47.b4? a desparate attempt by white to get a draw, but it simply makes his loss quicker... |
| Posted by peppe_l uskidscompute.com 9/02/2002 13:05:32 | Thanks for your response Message: "Most of the moves were either very obvious, or very subtle and complex, very hard for me to understand." Gotta admit, those subtle and complex moves were one reason why I selected this particular game :) ——— Kramnik Still Leads After More Eventful Draws at Bilbao Final Masters — Vladimir Kramnik of Russia nearly managed to beat Magnus Carlsen of Norway for the second time at the Bilbao Final Masters, but he fell just short on Wednesday and only drew. Nevertheless, Kramnik maintained the lead he held after Round 2 over Viswanathan Anand of India, the world chess champion. Anand drew with Alexei Shirov of Spain in a wild and complex game. Under the scoring system used in the tournament (3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw), Kramnik has 8 points, Anand has 6, Shirov has 3 and Carlsen has 2. Wednesday, Carlsen had White against Kramnik and opened with the English, which he had used to beat him in the London Classic last year. Carlsen was the first to ... |
| Posted by peppe_l uskidscompute.com 9/02/2002 13:14:35 | Oh forgot to mention... Message: IMO trying to analyze moves that feel like difficult or even impossible to understand is the most important thing, because thats the most instructive part of this game. Analysis here doesnt have to be correct, so if anyone of you feels certain move is impossible to understand, dont give up - just give your best shot! And if a certain move just doesnt make sense at all, take a guess! After all, that move might be a mistake that isnt supposed to make sense in the first place :))) ——— Two Draws, One a Marathon, Preserve Status Quo at Bilbao Masters — Both games in the Bilbao Final Masters were drawn Monday, but that does not mean that they were dull. Viswanathan Anand of India, the world chess champion, and Vladimir Kramnik of Russia had an interesting theoretical dual, while Alexei Shirov and Magnus Carlsen played a wild game that went 175 moves. The draws preserved the standings in the chess tournament, which is using an unusual scoring system (3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw). At the half-way point, Kramnik leads with 7 points, followed by Anand with 5, Shirov with 2 and Carlsen with 1. Anand and Kramnik have a long history as opponents, highlighted by their 2008 world chess championship match, which Anand won convincingly ... |