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Posted by madcow
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8/19/2002
15:22:34
Subject: do white are better ?

Message:
I would like to know why white are better :
( excuse my english I am french )
1 e4 e5
2 Nf3 Nc6
3 Bc4 Bc5
4 c3 Nf6
5 d4 e5xd4
6 c3xd4 Bb4 +
7 Nc3 Nxe4
8 O-O NxNc3
9 b2xNc3 Bxc3
10 Qb3 O-O
(not Bxa1 because 11.Bxf7+ Kf8 12.Bg5 Ne7 13. f1-e1 and the black queen is lost)

11 QxBc3

It's all
I hope somone can help me ...


Posted by tulkos
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8/19/2002
17:30:46
why is white better?

Message:
I would like to know why white is better.

1 e4 e5
2 Nf3 Nc6
3 Bc4 Bc5
4 c3 Nf6
5 d4 e5xd4
6 c3xd4 Bb4 +
7 Nc3 Nxe4
8 O-O NxNc3
9 b2xNc3 Bxc3
10 Qb3 O-O
(not Bxa1 because 11.Bxf7+ Kf8 12.Bg5 Ne7 13. f1-e1 and the black queen is lost)
11 QxBc3

Thats all.
I hope someone can help me.

Posted by brunetti
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8/19/2002
18:32:22
Why?!

Message:
White is a Bishop up. But I think that 10...Bxa1 is better, since Black gets for his Queen a Rook, a Bishop and 2 pawns. The best is 10...d5, when Black loses nothing.

Anyway, 9...Bxc3? is punished by 10.Ba3! and Black King is in great danger, for example: 10...d5 11.Bb5 Bxa1 12.Re1+ Be6 13.Qa4 Rb8 14.Ne5 winning.

The correct Black move is 9...Nxc3, leading to a slight preferable middlegame for him.

Thanx Tulkos for your translation: without that the original post would be totally obscure ;D

Alex
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Posted by stockscalper
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8/19/2002
18:46:48
Bonjour, je suis cajun

Message:
D'abord, l'ouverture jouée est peu commune, le piano
de Guioco. Elle mène à une ouverture non équilibrée
où le noir ne gagne pas la commande du centre.
Alors le noir a un mauvais évêque fermé à clef sur
ses propres places. Le bout, noir ne prend pas des
morceaux quand il a l'occasion de gagner le
territoire.
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Posted by brunetti
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8/19/2002
21:01:35
Stockscalper

Message:
That opening is not the Giuoco Piano, it is the Moeller attack, in the Italian game. Giuoco Piano doesn't features d2-d4, but d2-d3 and a slower developement ("giuoco piano" = slow game).

Alex
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Posted by madcow
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8/19/2002
21:44:45
Nxc3

Message:
i think Nxc3 is not good :
8. O-O BxNc3
9. b2xBc3 Nxc3
10. Qe1+ and win a bishop

However, thanks for your answer It's good for me
now, what can I play about :
1.d4 e5 !!!
2. dxe5 Nc6
3. Nf3 Qe7
4. Bf4 Qb4

I think I must to give the pawn before ?
and do you know the name of this opening?
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Posted by philaretus
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8/20/2002
04:19:46
brunetti

Message:
According to MCO, 'The Italian Game' is what the Giuoco Piano is called outside the English-speaking world. It analyses the Moller Attack under the Giuoco Piano.

The Ruy Lopez is similarly known as 'The Spanish Game' outside the English-speaking world.
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Posted by brunetti
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8/20/2002
04:22:39
Madcow:

Message:
9...Bxc3 after 8...Nxc3 hasn't been mentioned, and is different from 8...Bxc3 and 9...Nxc3

First of all, after 8...Bxc3, correct is 9.d5, and White has only a slight minus. 9.bxc3 is very questionable, since after the correct 9...d5! Black takes the upper hand. 9...Nxc3 is obviously wrong :)

In your second game, an Englund Gambit, best is 5.Bd2; all other moves lose material. Anyway, after 5...Qxb2 6.Nc3! followed by Ra1-b1-b3 and e2-e4, White stands better.

Once an amateur played with me 5.Nc3, interesting at fast chess because after 5...Qxf4 6.Nd5 White got some play.

Alex

Posted by macheide
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8/22/2002
22:07:54
philaretus

Message:
Dear friend:

1.e4 e5, 2.Nf3 Nc6, 3.Bc4 Bc5, 4.c3 is called "Giuoco Piano" (slow game)
1.e4 e5, 2.Nf3 Nc6, 3.Bc4 Bc5, 4.d3 is called "Giuoco Pianissimo" (very slow game).

Best regards.

P.S.: Chi va piano, va sano e va lontano.

Posted by sledgehammer
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8/23/2002
03:40:21
13. Ne5!

Message:
I think Brunetti is right when he says that 10....d5 is the strongest continuation for black. However, if black is greedy and plays 10...Bxa1 he is going down fast; 11.Bxf7 Kf8 12. Bg5 Ne7 13. Ne5! (as mentioned above 13. Re1 would leave black with enough compensation for his queen). The game could continue 13. ...Bxd4 14. Bg6 d5 15.Qf3 Bf5 16.Bxf5 Bxe5 17.Be6 Bf6 18.Bxf6 Ke8 19. Bxg7 1-0